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  • The New Baby It's Cold Outside

    Is the new one really an improvement?

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  • #2
    Sad.

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    • #3
      I must be really naive, because I've heard that song bunches of times, and always supposed the guy was just in love and didn't want his girlfriend to leave.

      And when I've seen it performed, it was kinda shared "flirting", nothing forced.

      I never went beyond that in my head.
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #4
        It is a sad commentary on our culture that offence is found in nothing and no offence is found in horrendous behaviour.

        Seems like straining gnats and swallowing camels......


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        • #5
          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
          I must be really naive, because I've heard that song bunches of times, and always supposed the guy was just in love and didn't want his girlfriend to leave.

          And when I've seen it performed, it was kinda shared "flirting", nothing forced.

          I never went beyond that in my head.
          As a woman, I've always found that song to be INCREDIBLY creepy.
          Curiosity never hurt anyone. It was stupidity that killed the cat.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by QuantaFille View Post
            As a woman, I've always found that song to be INCREDIBLY creepy.
            oh
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #7
              As a woman, it never bothered me at all.



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              • #8
                Eh, I did wonder about the 'what's in this drink ' line but it is clear that he hasn't put anything bad in it from the rest of the song. And she is pretty obviously not wanting to go nearly as much as she claims. Actually she only talks about needing to go, never wanting to leave.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by QuantaFille View Post
                  As a woman, I've always found that song to be INCREDIBLY creepy.
                  I wonder if that's a generational difference? I never found it particularly creepy, but I had also long know the songs origin and context and it really wasn't creepy at all. It seemed more innocent. It was written in 1944 as a parlor song for the composer to sing with his wife then sold for the movie "Neptune's Daughter."
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                    I must be really naive, because I've heard that song bunches of times, and always supposed the guy was just in love and didn't want his girlfriend to leave.

                    And when I've seen it performed, it was kinda shared "flirting", nothing forced.

                    I never went beyond that in my head.
                    It took us something like six decades to figure out that the song wasn't about old-fashioned romance and seduction but was really all about date rape

                    We had a pretty good discussion about this last year when some radio stations announced they were banning the song.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                      It took us something like six decades to figure out that the song wasn't about old-fashioned romance and seduction but was really all about date rape

                      We had a pretty good discussion about this last year when some radio stations announced they were banning the song.
                      Yeah, I thought I was having a deja vu all over again.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Catholicity View Post
                        I wonder if that's a generational difference? I never found it particularly creepy, but I had also long know the songs origin and context and it really wasn't creepy at all. It seemed more innocent. It was written in 1944 as a parlor song for the composer to sing with his wife then sold for the movie "Neptune's Daughter."
                        Back then, it was probably more innocent. But if those exact lyrics had been written more recently, you know what the guy would really be thinking. I guess I am interpreting it in more modern terms.
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                        • #13
                          I've read that "what's in this drink?" was an idiom back then, basically saying that there was nothing strong in the drink.
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                          • #14
                            I'd also like to point out that back then, someone living at home with their parents was a minor. Adults did not live with their parents. So this girl clearly lives at home, which means she's underage, yet she's at this guy's house unchaperoned, smoking and drinking (or at least trying to drink, given KG's comment). Maybe I'm overthinking it but I've never liked this song.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by QuantaFille View Post
                              I'd also like to point out that back then, someone living at home with their parents was a minor. Adults did not live with their parents. So this girl clearly lives at home, which means she's underage, yet she's at this guy's house unchaperoned, smoking and drinking (or at least trying to drink, given KG's comment). Maybe I'm overthinking it but I've never liked this song.
                              Actually it was still common for unmarried women to remain with their parents until they were married.
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