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    Ferguson was the guy whose model predicted 2 Million deaths in America due to coronavirus. However, this was not his only failure. He has done this 4 or 5 times.

    Source: https://nationalreview.com/corner/professor-lockdown-modeler-resigns-in-disgrace


    nationalreview.com/corner/professor-lockdown-modeler-resigns-in-disgrace

    ‘Professor Lockdown’ Modeler Resigns in Disgrace
    By John Fund

    May 6, 2020 4:52 PM

    Epidemiologist Neil Ferguson speaks at a news conference in London, England, January 22, 2020. (Reuters TV)

    Neil Ferguson is the British academic who created the infamous Imperial College model that warned Boris Johnson that, without an immediate lockdown, the coronavirus would cause 500,000 deaths and swamp the National Health Service.

    Johnson’s government promptly abandoned its Sweden-like “social distancing” approach, and Ferguson’s model also influenced the U.S. to make lockdown moves with its shocking prediction of over two million Americans dead.

    Johan Giesecke, the former chief scientist for the European Center for Disease Control and Prevention, has called Ferguson’s model “the most influential scientific paper” in memory. He also says it was, sadly, “one of the most wrong.”

    With all of his influence, it’s not surprising British media are making a great deal about Ferguson being forced to resign from the government’s virus advisory board yesterday after revelations he had violated lockdown rules he had championed in order to conduct an affair with a married woman. Ferguson admits he made an “error of judgement and took the wrong course of action.”

    Ferguson’s hypocritical violation of his beloved lockdown was the least of his errors in judgment. His incompetence and insistence on doomsday models is far worse.

    Elon Musk calls Ferguson an “utter tool” who does “absurdly fake science.” Jay Schnitzer, an expert in vascular biology and a former scientific direct of the Sidney Kimmel Cancer Center in San Diego, tells me: “I’m normally reluctant to say this about a scientist, but he dances on the edge of being a publicity-seeking charlatan.”

    Indeed, Ferguson’s Imperial College model has been proven wildly inaccurate. To cite just one example, it saw Sweden paying a huge price for no lockdown, with 40,000 COVID deaths by May 1, and 100,000 by June. Sweden now has 2,854 deaths and peaked two weeks ago. As Fraser Nelson, editor of Britain’s Spectator, notes: “Imperial College’s model is wrong by an order of magnitude.”

    Indeed, Ferguson has been wrong so often that some of his fellow modelers call him “The Master of Disaster.”

    Ferguson was behind the disputed research that sparked the mass culling of eleven million sheep and cattle during the 2001 outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease. Charlotte Reid, a farmer’s neighbor, recalls: “I remember that appalling time. Sheep were left starving in fields near us. Then came the open air slaughter. The poor animals were panic stricken. It was one of the worst things I’ve witnessed. And all based on a model — if’s but’s and maybe’s.”

    In 2002, Ferguson predicted that, by 2080, up to 150,000 people could die from exposure to BSE (mad cow disease) in beef. In the U.K., there were only 177 deaths from BSE.

    In 2005, Ferguson predicted that up to 150 million people could be killed from bird flu. In the end, only 282 people died worldwide from the disease between 2003 and 2009.

    In 2009, a government estimate, based on Ferguson’s advice, said a “reasonable worst-case scenario” was that the swine flu would lead to 65,000 British deaths. In the end, swine flu killed 457 people in the U.K.

    Last March, Ferguson admitted that his Imperial College model of the COVID-19 disease was based on undocumented, 13-year-old computer code that was intended to be used for a feared influenza pandemic, rather than a coronavirus. Ferguson declined to release his original code so other scientists could check his results. He only released a heavily revised set of code last week, after a six-week delay.
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    So the real scandal is: Why did anyone ever listen to this guy?

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    We listened to him because of Fauci, Newsome, and Cuomo. Brilliant.

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  • #2
    Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
    We listened to him because of Fauci, Newsome, and Cuomo.
    "Leadership: Whatever happens, you're responsible. If it doesn't happen, you're responsible."

    @realdonaldtrump, November-8-2013

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Whateverman View Post
      "Leadership: Whatever happens, you're responsible. If it doesn't happen, you're responsible."

      @realdonaldtrump, November-8-2013
      So who cares to wager that chuckie won't be scooting in here on his hind end squeaking and squawking hysterically about WHATABOUTISM!!!1!!eleventy-one!?

      I'm always still in trouble again

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      • #4
        Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
        So who cares to wager that chuckie won't be scooting in here on his hind end squeaking and squawking hysterically about WHATABOUTISM!!!1!!eleventy-one!?
        It's a violation of Trump's own standards (as posted to Twitter before he became president) to blame the US reaction to the pandemic on someone other than Trump. That's not whataboutism.

        At all.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism


        Source: Wikipedia

        Whataboutism, also known as whataboutery, is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument.

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        No one's being charged with hypocrisy here.
        Last edited by Whateverman; 06-21-2020, 08:42 AM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Whateverman View Post
          It's a violation of Trump's own standards (as posted to Twitter before he became president) to blame the US reaction to the pandemic on someone other than Trump. That's not whataboutism.

          At all.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism


          Source: Wikipedia

          Whataboutism, also known as whataboutery, is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument.

          © Copyright Original Source



          No one's being charged with hypocrisy here.
          Tu quoque, that is one I actually didnt know about .... but I do now
          My brethren, do not hold your faith in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ with an attitude of personal favoritism. James 2:1

          If anyone thinks himself to be religious, and yet does not  bridle his tongue but deceives his own heart, this man’s religion is worthless James 1:26

          This you know, my beloved brethren. But everyone must be quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to anger; James 1:19

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          • #6
            If I understand this right, we have left-of-left people who desire that Trump violate the Constitution by becoming a dictator. If he became a dictator, then he would just force idiot governors out of power and reopen the economy.

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            • #7
              Anyhow, the issue of this thread is not about Trump's reliance on the crooked Fauci. The big problem is that the great number of people are living happily under the lies of Fauci and WHO. (We know of WHO's corruption under the leader of the communist revolutionist who is sponsored by China. You know WHO I'm talking about.)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by mikewhitney View Post
                Ferguson was the guy whose model predicted 2 Million deaths in America due to coronavirus. However, this was not his only failure. He has done this 4 or 5 times.

                Source: https://nationalreview.com/corner/professor-lockdown-modeler-resigns-in-disgrace


                nationalreview.com/corner/professor-lockdown-modeler-resigns-in-disgrace

                ‘Professor Lockdown’ Modeler Resigns in Disgrace
                By John Fund

                May 6, 2020 4:52 PM

                Epidemiologist Neil Ferguson speaks at a news conference in London, England, January 22, 2020. (Reuters TV)

                Neil Ferguson is the British academic who created the infamous Imperial College model that warned Boris Johnson that, without an immediate lockdown, the coronavirus would cause 500,000 deaths and swamp the National Health Service.

                Johnson’s government promptly abandoned its Sweden-like “social distancing” approach, and Ferguson’s model also influenced the U.S. to make lockdown moves with its shocking prediction of over two million Americans dead.

                Johan Giesecke, the former chief scientist for the European Center for Disease Control and Prevention, has called Ferguson’s model “the most influential scientific paper” in memory. He also says it was, sadly, “one of the most wrong.”

                With all of his influence, it’s not surprising British media are making a great deal about Ferguson being forced to resign from the government’s virus advisory board yesterday after revelations he had violated lockdown rules he had championed in order to conduct an affair with a married woman. Ferguson admits he made an “error of judgement and took the wrong course of action.”

                Ferguson’s hypocritical violation of his beloved lockdown was the least of his errors in judgment. His incompetence and insistence on doomsday models is far worse.

                Elon Musk calls Ferguson an “utter tool” who does “absurdly fake science.” Jay Schnitzer, an expert in vascular biology and a former scientific direct of the Sidney Kimmel Cancer Center in San Diego, tells me: “I’m normally reluctant to say this about a scientist, but he dances on the edge of being a publicity-seeking charlatan.”

                Indeed, Ferguson’s Imperial College model has been proven wildly inaccurate. To cite just one example, it saw Sweden paying a huge price for no lockdown, with 40,000 COVID deaths by May 1, and 100,000 by June. Sweden now has 2,854 deaths and peaked two weeks ago. As Fraser Nelson, editor of Britain’s Spectator, notes: “Imperial College’s model is wrong by an order of magnitude.”

                Indeed, Ferguson has been wrong so often that some of his fellow modelers call him “The Master of Disaster.”

                Ferguson was behind the disputed research that sparked the mass culling of eleven million sheep and cattle during the 2001 outbreak of foot-and-mouth disease. Charlotte Reid, a farmer’s neighbor, recalls: “I remember that appalling time. Sheep were left starving in fields near us. Then came the open air slaughter. The poor animals were panic stricken. It was one of the worst things I’ve witnessed. And all based on a model — if’s but’s and maybe’s.”

                In 2002, Ferguson predicted that, by 2080, up to 150,000 people could die from exposure to BSE (mad cow disease) in beef. In the U.K., there were only 177 deaths from BSE.

                In 2005, Ferguson predicted that up to 150 million people could be killed from bird flu. In the end, only 282 people died worldwide from the disease between 2003 and 2009.

                In 2009, a government estimate, based on Ferguson’s advice, said a “reasonable worst-case scenario” was that the swine flu would lead to 65,000 British deaths. In the end, swine flu killed 457 people in the U.K.

                Last March, Ferguson admitted that his Imperial College model of the COVID-19 disease was based on undocumented, 13-year-old computer code that was intended to be used for a feared influenza pandemic, rather than a coronavirus. Ferguson declined to release his original code so other scientists could check his results. He only released a heavily revised set of code last week, after a six-week delay.
                111

                So the real scandal is: Why did anyone ever listen to this guy?

                © Copyright Original Source



                We listened to him because of Fauci, Newsome, and Cuomo. Brilliant.

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                I never agreed with Ferguson's predictions, but the predictions by Fauci and Quomo, and others were more accurate.

                You still have not followed up on your dishonest statement concerning Extended Care facilities and COVID 19 in New York. Your credibility is shoot from the perpective of your extreme right pandemic denial.
                Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
                Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
                But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

                go with the flow the river knows . . .

                Frank

                I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.

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