I mentioned this a while back to Sylas and he assured me that geothermal / volcanic activity had little effect.

I think that anytime climate change is discussed natural phenomenon: especially geothermal activity needs to be considered first as this seems to be the strongest source of changes so far. Human activity seems to contribute some but less than Earth's own internal phenomenon.

I wonder if someone could explain how earth went from a volcanic covered near life hating planet to flourishing with lush green plants, animals etc...EXCEPT via climate change.

Keep in mind that impact due to animals/nature is okay. Impact due to humans is bad. Even though humans are nothing more than animals.

In some ways I feel like there is a "hidden agenda" by the screaming alarmists and that is to convince people that all humans are evil and thus the human race must be eliminated. I know it sounds REALLY warped, and it could be, but when they start on things like population control and other weird measures I just sort of look and go okay.....really....no.

I don't doubt that that is the agenda for some of them. Of course, the hypocrites would refuse to give their own life for the cause of "cleansing Mother Nature." Would have to be someone else who suffered.

I personally think it is more about money and keeping it flowing than anything like that.

Hmmm, so we can prevent alien invasion by tossing a few logs on the proverbial fire?


I wonder if it's too late to buy a coal mine?

They do not want to eliminate all human life, just most. Those left will live without any of what we consider normal.

I seriously doubt they actually plan that far ahead. Shouting slogans and demanding power based on slim justifications for an apocalyptic vision simply feels good, especially if the rest of government and society is paying you in money and attention to do it. When the money dries up, the field will go tumble-weedy in a hurry.

In completely unrelated news,

As does the scientific establishment. If it doesn't, I will shed no tears at its demise, and will gladly destroy it and scatter its funding to the four winds for the sake of a better future. Whether in politics or in science, you forget who you represent (and who chooses you to represent themselves) at your own peril.

We could pass some laws to regulate volcanoes. Enforcement might get tricky... and hot...

Didn't stop King Canute from trying much the same thing.

Um, the story surrounding Canute (or Cnut) ordering that tide should not come in has been greatly misunderstood.

Henry of Huntingdon provided the first written account of this incident in his Historia Anglorum ("The History of the English People") which was first published in the early 12^th century.

According to Henry, while King Canute did indeed order the waves not to break upon his land after they did he proclaimed: "All the inhabitants of the world should know that the power of kings is vain and trivial, and that none is worthy the name of king but He whose command the heaven, earth and sea obey by eternal laws"

Henry then added "Therefore King Canute never afterwards placed the crown on his head, but above a picture of the Lord nailed to the cross, turning it forever into a means to praise God, the great king."

Thus it appears that instead of arrogantly expecting that his decree could hold back the tide this account reveals that Canute set out to demonstrate that the tide would come in regardless of what a king ordered.

IOW, Henry's account wasn't a testimony to Canute's arrogant pride or vanity but rather to his good sense and Christian humility.



On the opposite end is Herodotus' depiction of the Persian king Xerxes ordering that the Dardanelles Strait (or Hellespont) be whipped 300 times and shackles dropped into them as a mark of enslavement after a storm thwarted his first attempt to cross them during his invasion of Greece in 480 BC. If true that was a king who thought he could actually command the seas.