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  • Merkel admits no-go areas exist

    German officials have been left speechless by Chancellor Angela Merkel’s comment that there are “no-go areas” in the country.

    The notion there are places in Germany outsiders — including police — can’t visit has previously been dismissed by officials.

    In an interview Monday with German broadcaster n-tv, Merkel said she favors a zero tolerance policy on crime and that includes preventing no-go areas, “that’s areas where nobody dares to go.”

    She added: “There are such areas and one has to call them by their name and do something about them.”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...1b6_story.html
    Looks like politicians tell truth when desperate!!!
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    European no-go zones ruled by sharia law have been around for at least a decade and are common knowledge to anybody even moderately well-informed... which is why Merkel's open confession will be such a shock to low-info liberals.
    Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
    But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
    Than a fool in the eyes of God


    From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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    • #3
      Does the UK acknowledge same?
      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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      • #4
        There was a discussion about no-go zones recently. It was actually both interesting and funny:
        http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...don-US-Embassy
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        • #5
          There was an interesting Reddit thread awhile back asking Europeans if they were real. About half the respondents said yes and half said no. Obviously online you have no way of knowing who really is even from Europe though.
          "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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          • #6
            Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
            There was an interesting Reddit thread awhile back asking Europeans if they were real. About half the respondents said yes and half said no. Obviously online you have no way of knowing who really is even from Europe though.
            After Rotherham I don't believe a word European leftists say about these issues anymore.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
              There was an interesting Reddit thread awhile back asking Europeans if they were real. About half the respondents said yes and half said no. Obviously online you have no way of knowing who really is even from Europe though.
              There are numerous credible news reports going back over a decade that document no-go zones throughout Europe. Of course back then, even liberals recognized that Islam was dangerous, so they didn't consider no-go zones a controversial topic and simply accepted them as a matter of fact. These days they desperately pretend they don't exist.
              Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
              But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
              Than a fool in the eyes of God


              From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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              • #8
                Seems a bit weird that a right-wing pro-high-immigration politician like Merkel would want to talk about immigrant-heavy 'no-go' zones. Looking at her comments, given as part of her talking about cracking down on crime, it seems she is talking about high crime areas as opposed to immigrant-heavy areas so the comments may have zero connection to immigration in her mind. Crime-heavy zones is quite a different thing to what posters in this forum normally mean by '[Muslim immigrant heavy / sharia] no-go zones'. Her own government is refusing to give any specific examples, so that's both fishy and unhelpful.

                But it seems like this might be the equivalent of Trump talking about Chicago as a high-crime hellhole that needs to be cracked down on with zero-tolerance policies. Probably nothing to do with sharia law or Islam.


                In the interests of general clarity, can someone provide me with a clear definition of a 'no-go zone' and how one would set about measuring whether an area qualified as a 'no-go zone' or not? Can I also have an explanation of how an area that was high on Muslim immigrants who practiced 'sharia law' (whatever that is interpreted as meaning) would mean it would be a 'no-go zone'? Could I as a random white person not walk through such an area? What would happen to me if I did? What would happen to a police officer who entered such an area?
                Last edited by Starlight; 03-03-2018, 04:37 PM.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                  Seems a bit weird that a right-wing pro-high-immigration politician like Merkel would want to talk about immigrant-heavy 'no-go' zones.
                  The point that you missed is that Merkel has left the reservation by acknowledging something that is extraordinarily taboo to admit.

                  I'm always still in trouble again

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                    The point that you missed is that Merkel has left the reservation by acknowledging something that is extraordinarily taboo to admit.
                    No, you nutters are amusingly getting your hopes up because you think that a tiny piece of translation of interview comments about getting tough on crime (a standard right-wing trope, unsurprising given she's right-wing), somehow implies that she's done a complete 180 on her strong commitments to a policy of high immigration and now buys into your ignorant and hysterical fantasies with regard to Muslim immigration, when that wasn't what she was talking about.
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                    "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                    "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                      No, you nutters are amusingly getting your hopes up because you think that a tiny piece of translation of interview comments about getting tough on crime (a standard right-wing trope, unsurprising given she's right-wing), somehow implies that she's done a complete 180 on her strong commitments to a policy of high immigration and now buys into your ignorant and hysterical fantasies with regard to Muslim immigration, when that wasn't what she was talking about.
                      Sorry, I missed the part where they made you her spokesnut.

                      Even in December 2016 she was already changing her tune...

                      Angela Merkel laid out her case for a fourth term as German chancellor on Tuesday, seeking to energize her conservatives with a call to ban full-face Muslim veils and the promise of a tougher stance on immigration after a record influx of refugees.

                      Speaking to a party congress of her Christian Democratic Union (CDU) in Essen, the western rust belt city where she won the party leadership 16 years ago, Merkel sought to present herself as a guarantor of stability in an uncertain world.

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                      Merkel's decision to allow the migrant influx last year hit her popularity, triggered a damaging fight with her Bavarian allies and led to a surge in support for the anti-immigrant, eurosceptic Alternative for Germany (AfD). The party is expected to win its first seats in the federal parliament next year.

                      In a nod to these troubles, Merkel began her speech with a promise not to allow a repetition of last year's migrant influx, when nearly 900,000 migrants poured into Germany, and drew cheers when she said the Muslim full-face veil was not compatible with German culture.

                      "Here we say 'show your face'. So full veiling is not appropriate here. It should be prohibited wherever legally possible," she said in a speech that lasted an hour and a quarter and was followed by 11 minutes of applause.

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                      Doesn't sound at all like a "strong commitment to a policy of high immigration", does it?

                      You're almost as ignorant about things German as you are things US.
                      The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                        Even in December 2016 she was already changing her tune...
                        She's hedging a little, not exactly the same thing as doing a 180. It's temporary political strategy because she's trying to negotiate a coalition deal with an anti-immigrant party so she's trying to offer a bit of a compromise, and her own super-high-immigration policies haven't been wildly popular.

                        Doesn't sound at all like a "strong commitment to a policy of high immigration", does it?
                        She had the immigration rate at 3x what the US has it at. She's saying it won't continue to be that high. That doesn't mean it won't still be much higher than the US.
                        "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                        "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                        "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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                        • #13

                          Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                          She's hedging a little...


                          You are such a pantload!
                          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Starlight View Post
                            She's hedging a little, not exactly the same thing as doing a 180. It's temporary political strategy because she's trying to negotiate a coalition deal with an anti-immigrant party so she's trying to offer a bit of a compromise, and her own super-high-immigration policies haven't been wildly popular.
                            ?????????? The SPD, the political party in question, isn't anti-immigrant at all. In fact, the sticking point in regards to immigration between the two parties in negotiations was that the SPD wanted more lenient immigration policies for refugees than Merkel's party did. Your description of the situation is essentially the exact opposite of what's happening.
                            Last edited by Terraceth; 03-03-2018, 11:04 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Terraceth View Post
                              ?????????? The SPD, the political party in question, isn't anti-immigrant at all.
                              I was referring to the AfD (small anti-immigration party), the first party that Merkel (CDU/CSU primary right-wing party) tried to negotiate a coalition with. Since the election in September, Merkel has been trying to negotiate a coalition govt. With the SPD (primary left-wing party) initially ruling out a repeat of the previous coalition with Merkel, Merkel was forced to try to negotiate with the anti-immigration AfD. Cow Poke's quote of Merkel talking about toning down immigration comes from a point in time when she was still trying to get an agreement from the anti-immigration AfD or looking at a new election having to be called. This year, over the past couple of months, the SPD party has come to the table and negotiated with Merkel, because they don't really want another election. As of today it seems unclear whether the SPD will accept the coalition deal being offered, or reject it and force a new election. I haven't been following the specifics of the SPD/CDU coalition deal, so I'm not sure what the issues are.
                              "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
                              "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
                              "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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