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  1. Trump Administration Whistleblower Cover-Up

    Apparently a whistleblower in the intel community was so concerned about a "promise" that Trump made over the phone to a foreign leader that he alerted the Inpector General who turned it over to the...
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    Well, I'm just thankful that the SCOTUS in their...

    Well, I'm just thankful that the SCOTUS in their wisdom disagreed with you all as to what the Establishment Clause was meant to convey. No offense Jim.
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    If your blindness regarding Trumps criminal...

    If your blindness regarding Trumps criminal behavior wasn't so sad, it'd be funny. If this were Obama in Trumps stead, doing all the things Trump is doing, you would all be screaming lock him up,...
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    The point isn't that the founding fathers were...

    The point isn't that the founding fathers were not christians, or believers in a god, whether theist or deist, the point is that the government/state would not sanction any particular belief system....
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    So, Yes, absolutely what? That is not the...

    So, Yes, absolutely what? That is not the christian god. Are you following the argument at all?
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    Not according to the Founders of this country....

    Not according to the Founders of this country. Besides, you're derailing. It has nothing to do with the Christian god, with a specific religion, because of "the wall between religion and state."...
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    Yeah, I guess the many deists amongst the...

    Yeah, I guess the many deists amongst the Founders, Jefferson, Franklin, Paine etc, agreed, eh?
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    Egad. Of course from their own perspective they...

    Egad. Of course from their own perspective they believed the god that they were referring to was the God that they believed in. They didn't say that though did they? They didn't write that in the...
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    I think every woman is different and are effected...

    I think every woman is different and are effected differently. It depends on the woman. No doubt some may regret in the future the decision they made, but most are fully aware of the choice they are...
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    Try to follow what I actually say before jumping...

    Try to follow what I actually say before jumping to conclusions, CP. I know what they said, what they wrote, what many of them believed. I understand that they were mostly religious men who, like...
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    Born with the same rights, Sparko. Read and...

    Born with the same rights, Sparko. Read and understand the context. It's true that the Founders, most of them at least, believed in god, but that's irrelevant to the point being made. The point is...
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    Use the term you prefer. We are born, we come...

    Use the term you prefer. We are born, we come into being, or are created out of nothing. I perfer the former two definitions seeing as only those conform to what we know. But it's only semantics.
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    Yeah, I guess you would know better than the...

    Yeah, I guess you would know better than the women themselves, seer.
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    Apparently, CP, you're just to ignorant to...

    Apparently, CP, you're just to ignorant to understand the difference between refering to a god and refering to the god of a specific religion.:tongue:
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    I don't believe in a god seer, I'm sure you know...

    I don't believe in a god seer, I'm sure you know that by now.
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    Yes, my error, but they go together, the one...

    Yes, my error, but they go together, the one informing the other.
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    So, you should understand then by that letter...

    So, you should understand then by that letter that Jefferson was clearly saying that there would be no government sactioned religion.
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    It was if you read the Constitution properly....

    It was if you read the Constitution properly. "All men are created equal-life liberty and the pursuit of happiness."

    As I said, James Madison, the main author of the Constitution warned against...
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    No, he killed 58 and wounded another 422. And you...

    No, he killed 58 and wounded another 422. And you can't outrun a bullit. With the truck there are ways to protect against where there are large crowds of people which I'm sure the authorities in...
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    No stupid, it's an analogous situation. They...

    No stupid, it's an analogous situation. They wrote one thing, but did another. Their ideals were higher than their actions at the time. Madison himself, the main author of the Constitution warned...
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    Already proved that to you in the same post,...

    Already proved that to you in the same post, stupid. "all men are created equal" - yet slavery continued for another 8 decades or so.
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    Count me among them. You people are so blind it's...

    Count me among them. You people are so blind it's really hard to believe. Trump is still obstructing now. Bet you don't see that either!
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    And you should know what that's like, CP.

    And you should know what that's like, CP.
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    Well, being deceived yourselves, of course you...

    Well, being deceived yourselves, of course you wouldn't count on it. I think that deep down you all know that this woman didn't just put herself and her family through all of this for nothing, but...
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    All of it was pretty obvious to you before the...

    All of it was pretty obvious to you before the beginning.
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