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    How about you go through the reasoning process of...

    How about you go through the reasoning process of a mouses observation of the moon.
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    That's called observation, Sparko. When a...

    That's called observation, Sparko.


    When a kitten looks in the mirror it is aware of the object it see's there, but it is not aware that the object it see's is it's self. Why? Because...
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    Explain how being aware of the moon is reasoning...

    Explain how being aware of the moon is reasoning about the moon? Give an example of this reasoning process.
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    Jellyfish was a poor example in the first place,...

    Jellyfish was a poor example in the first place, jellyfish don't have eyes, so aren't visually aware. But to be visually aware, to simply see the moon, doesn't take reasoning.
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    Still digging I see, eh Sparko. :ahem:

    Still digging I see, eh Sparko. :ahem:
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    Time to stop digging, Sparko. :lol:

    Time to stop digging, Sparko. :lol:
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    Short answer, because they are in a coma. If they...

    Short answer, because they are in a coma. If they are in a coma they are not observing anything whether their eyes are open or not.
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    :duh:

    :duh:
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    No, you just don't know to stop when your...

    No, you just don't know to stop when your obviously wrong. Reason and Observation are two different activities.
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    Egad! Learn when to give up Sparko, you're making...

    Egad! Learn when to give up Sparko, you're making yourself look bad.
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    It may have been a rabbit hole, but what you were...

    It may have been a rabbit hole, but what you were claiming to me was that to be aware was the same as to reason. If you are conceding that argument to be false, or denying that was your intent, then...
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    Whether a creature can reason or not about the...

    Whether a creature can reason or not about the moon, doesn't mean they are doing so simply because they are aware of its presence.
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    Very good Sherlock. But what does that have to do...

    Very good Sherlock. But what does that have to do with the post of mine that you are responding to. I think you need to do something about that reading comprehension problem of yours , Sparko.
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    Wrong, you believe that being aware that there is...

    Wrong, you believe that being aware that there is bright ball in the night sky which we call the moon is the same thing as reasoning about the bright ball in the night sky. That isn't what my post...
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    Which doesn't prove any such thing.:no: It's that...

    Which doesn't prove any such thing.:no: It's that reading comprehension problem of yours again Sparky.
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    Sparko, It has become clear that disgussing any...

    Sparko, It has become clear that disgussing any kind of logic, or physics, or even philosophy with you is just an exercise in frustration and a waste of time. You just don't have the mental capacity...
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    No, you were asserting that awareness of an...

    No, you were asserting that awareness of an object is the same thing as reasoning about it. Not!
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    So, they can see an object, but not be aware that...

    So, they can see an object, but not be aware that they see an object? :hehe:



    No you don't Sparko, that's just dumb. To reason is to think about the object you are aware of. Awareness and...
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    Well, an infant doesn't know what the moon is...

    Well, an infant doesn't know what the moon is either, so what? If they see it they are aware that it is there, they are aware of its existence even if they don't know what it is.



    So what, an...
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    so the frog doesn't see the moon when he looks at...

    so the frog doesn't see the moon when he looks at it? :ahem:
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    So what your saying then is that a frog looking...

    So what your saying then is that a frog looking at the moon is not aware of what he is seeing? :lol:
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    It means to experience the object of awareness...

    It means to experience the object of awareness with the senses.

    Of course not. If a blind person is told about the moon then he can think about it, but if he suddenly gained sight and looked up...
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    No, you do not, you use your eyes to be aware. ...

    No, you do not, you use your eyes to be aware.



    A camera isn't observing things, the user of the camera is.

    Being aware of the moon is not making conclusions about anything.


    No it...
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    :rofl: Do you think about nothing often? :rofl:

    :rofl: Do you think about nothing often? :rofl:
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    Duh. Objective verifiable evidence is not a...

    Duh. Objective verifiable evidence is not a concept.
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