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    Well, Jesus, the son, would be considered one...

    Well, Jesus, the son, would be considered one third of god incarnate. I wonder if all three, the father the son and the holy ghost could be incarnate at the same time and could actually speak to one...
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    So the mind of the father is omniscient, but the...

    So the mind of the father is omniscient, but the minds of the son and the holy spirit are imperfect and lack knowledge and yet they are one god?
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    That's because there are three distinct minds in...

    That's because there are three distinct minds in one god. :lol:
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    That passage doesn't really say what you posted....

    That passage doesn't really say what you posted. It says that the son does whatever the father does. How can the two be one the same being if the one can act/create apart from the other, at that...
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    I know that John speaks the "word". But why did...

    I know that John speaks the "word". But why did he associate Jesus with being gods "word" rather than the son or second "person" of the trinity. Could it be the fact that Genesis records god as...
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    And why doesn't it simply say that in the...

    And why doesn't it simply say that in the beginning there was Jesus, and Jesus was with god, and Jesus was god, and all things were made by god? You just can't make sense out of the trinity idea no...
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    Well, if you are simply going to assume a being...

    Well, if you are simply going to assume a being i.e. a god, without a logical argument to back the assumption up, then there is no point in debating the issue.
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    Uncaused, Omnipresent, and infinite, yes, but not...

    Uncaused, Omnipresent, and infinite, yes, but not necessarily a being, sir. That the eternal and infinite is a being is your assumption.


    When you say the caused thing must be "of the uncaused" I...
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    Which, logically speaking, can only mean that the...

    Which, logically speaking, can only mean that the father/god is distinct from the son/god, not that they are one and the same god. And Genesis 1:1 doesn't say anything about Jesus, or the son of god.
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    "The word" is a synonymous term for Jesus/god,...

    "The word" is a synonymous term for Jesus/god, correct? So what you're saying is that in the beginning was god, and god was with god, and that god was god. That makes no sense no matter how you slice...
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    Again, this is an illogical definition of the...

    Again, this is an illogical definition of the trinity. If there is only one god, the father and one mediator between men and god, then Christ Jesus would not be god, he'd be a mediator, like 1...
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    It's still illogical to say that god was always...

    It's still illogical to say that god was always both god and with god and the sole agent from god to cause creation. I mean it isn't that we don't know what you are saying, it's just that what you...
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    So the Trinity is an explanation of gods...

    So the Trinity is an explanation of gods relationship with himself? :lol:
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