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  1. Thread: Richard Rohr

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    That's a hard nope from me. Any time you hear a...

    That's a hard nope from me. Any time you hear a religious "authority"/thinker/leader/philosopher/whatever insert this phrase or something similar/equivalent into one of his writings/speeches/sermons...
  2. Well, you already gave a reason in this very...

    Well, you already gave a reason in this very paragraph for why God cannot be immutably good and that His goodness be logically dependent on good-making features external to Himself. If God is...
  3. No, it didn't. People ignoring or distorting the...

    No, it didn't. People ignoring or distorting the Bible's teaching on equality allowed things like slavery and Jim Crow.
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    Poll: Other (please specify) No

    Other (please specify)

    No
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    Poll: His mouth.

    His mouth.
  6. Your point was that in order for God's calling...

    Your point was that in order for God's calling something good not being arbitrary, the reason it is good must be logically independent of God's nature. I showed how this is not true being that God's...
  7. I'm pretty sure God knows perfectly well why He...

    I'm pretty sure God knows perfectly well why He loves us. :yes:
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    Disagree, mainly because acting in a "religious...

    Disagree, mainly because acting in a "religious way" isn't synonymous with acting in an "ethical way".

    Disregard that, I was thinking of "religious" in the conventional way. If someone acts in the...
  9. This objection doesn't hold at all. If God's...

    This objection doesn't hold at all. If God's nature is immutable and unchanging then it clearly follows that any morality/standard of morality based upon the nature of God is fixed and consistent. ...
  10. It's not an argument from ignorance, it's an...

    It's not an argument from ignorance, it's an argument from past experience. In the past, and up until this point the scientific methodology has never been equipped to study anything other than...
  11. Science has a track record of consistently...

    Science has a track record of consistently discovering and explaining certain aspects of reality which lends itself well to being studied using the scientific methodology. There is no indication that...
  12. I'm not using it as an argument for the existence...

    I'm not using it as an argument for the existence of God.



    If that's true, it contradicts what you wrote in post #136:



    If there is no 'objective verifiable evidence' that can distinguish...
  13. Regarding the bolded above, that was not how you...

    Regarding the bolded above, that was not how you initially put it, what you wrote was:



    Which would indicate you believe that humans would experience the world in the exact same way regardless...
  14. We have no good reasons to believe that we are...

    We have no good reasons to believe that we are only warranted to believe things that can be verified by empirical evidence.




    You replied in an earlier post to Jim B. with the following:

    ...
  15. Well, in this case you don't. Either God exists,...

    Well, in this case you don't. Either God exists, or He doesn't, and there is no way to know how much the human experience would differ from the current one if the alternative reality rather than the...
  16. Let me specify: Unless you've experienced both...

    Let me specify:

    Unless you've experienced both the possibility in which God exists and the possibility in which God doesn't exist, how would you know that the nature of being human is the same in...
  17. Thread: I'm the Dummy

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    The problem I have with contemporary worship...

    The problem I have with contemporary worship music (at least of the 7-11 variety) is that it's more often than not accompanied by vapid and shallow "self-realization" theology. As long as the...
  18. Thread: I'm the Dummy

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    "7 words sung 11 eleven times"

    "7 words sung 11 eleven times"
  19. "Unless we have empirical evidence to the...

    "Unless we have empirical evidence to the contrary, I think it best to maintain that the only things which I'm going to even entertain the possibility of existing are the ones that are open to...
  20. Unless you've experienced both possibilities, how...

    Unless you've experienced both possibilities, how would you know?
  21. Because the difference is obvious to anyone who...

    Because the difference is obvious to anyone who is not a robot.
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    And presuming physicalism/materialism, which has...

    And presuming physicalism/materialism, which has just as little scientific evidence in its favor, is preferable for what reason?
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    No it's not, at least not entirely. It's just as...

    No it's not, at least not entirely. It's just as much a matter of philosophy/metaphysics. Discussing the philosophical aspect of the question of the soul and whether it should play a part in the...
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    No we don't. We don't have any visible indication...

    No we don't. We don't have any visible indication of consciousness until after the brain forms, which is a completely different matter altogether. Whether or not there's any consciousness prior to...
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    If that's really all you're doing you need to be...

    If that's really all you're doing you need to be more careful with how you phrase your sentences, because to me they read like someone arguing well beyond what is legally and scientifically...
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