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    The reformers were heavily influenced by...

    The reformers were heavily influenced by Augustine. But Augustine is not scripture. Augustine changed his views from time to time. That is why the principle of sola scriptura was so foundational to...
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    Ah yes ! " I am the good shepherd. The good...

    Ah yes ! " I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep." The world, from the perspective of Jesus and His Apostles comprised of Jews and Gentiles.

    John 10:16 New...
  3. Yep. And just to piggy-back, when Adam heard God...

    Yep. And just to piggy-back, when Adam heard God say " you shall not " it was the Word of God. When that history was written down, it was the written Word of God. All scripture is breathed out by the...
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    Can anyone here explain the history behind the...

    Can anyone here explain the history behind the theology of OSAS ? Because from what I can tell, it seems to be borrowed from reformed theology. But, borrowed without any theological cause.
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    True. But can someone point to a scripture where...

    True. But can someone point to a scripture where Jesus states that he lays down His life for both His sheep and the goats ?
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    Also, it never made sense to me that Christ would...

    Also, it never made sense to me that Christ would atone for the sins of someone whom God knew was going to be thrown into the Lake of Fire at the judgment. And this is regardless of what your view is...
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    First, are we all on the same page that we are...

    First, are we all on the same page that we are talking about penal substitutionary atonement ? That we are not only saved by death of the Son, but by His perfect obedience to the Father as well ?
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    Calvinism doesn't deny that sinners have a free...

    Calvinism doesn't deny that sinners have a free will. Mankind freely rebel against God and freely love their sin more than God. That's what they choose of their own will. They freely reject the...
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    Well, there is the whole added incentive of...

    Well, there is the whole added incentive of getting your own planet and universe to do on....:wink:
  10. Yep. And on top of the that, the son of man...

    Yep. And on top of the that, the son of man approaches the Ancient of Days, which shows that these are two different and distinct " persons. "
  11. The thing about the trinity ( as revealed in the...

    The thing about the trinity ( as revealed in the scriptures ) is that it is revealed more in the experiences of Jesus and the Apostles. This includes what jesus taught about the Father, himself, and...
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    From what I have read, Lees' ( or Pipers for that...

    From what I have read, Lees' ( or Pipers for that matter ) view is not representing a hyper Calvinist view......but simply.... classic Calvinism.
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    Question. Was there a part in his chrismation...

    Question. Was there a part in his chrismation where he had to renounce things he believed as a Protestant Evangelical ? If so, which ecumenical counsels are usually sighted as reasons for him having...
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    We can talk about the " rightness " of Hanks...

    We can talk about the " rightness " of Hanks conversion, of course. But I think a even more pressing question is warranted. In light of Hanks faith in the truth of Eastern Orthodoxy, should not Hank...
  15. It seems to be a common trait among people who...

    It seems to be a common trait among people who claim to know the " real truth " about Christianity.
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    Hi.... If this were true, then Father, Son and...

    Hi....

    If this were true, then Father, Son and Spirit would be three separate gods. If one dropped out, then the next one would take over.

    One thing I was curious about though......is LDS...
  17. The Reformed view is looking at what is doing...

    The Reformed view is looking at what is doing from " behind the scenes " so to speak. It takes in account everything in scripture reveals about God and His plan and purpose. It views the Old and New...
  18. There is so much that you are leaving here. And...

    There is so much that you are leaving here. And rightfully so, because this is a topic all its own. You are leaving out that the Reformed view believes that no one desires to come to God without Him...
  19. Like I said, I got no problem with that. But when...

    Like I said, I got no problem with that. But when you look at the broken people who are saved they are Jews and Gentiles.
  20. This seems to be how a open theist would see it.

    This seems to be how a open theist would see it.
  21. So, you say we chose ourselves, in essence, by...

    So, you say we chose ourselves, in essence, by having faith ?

    You guys seem to using " whosoever " as if God does not know who the elect are. It seems that on one hand you have a view that God is...
  22. Acts 10 is really making my point about the...

    Acts 10 is really making my point about the inclusion of the gentiles.

    “Truly I understand that God shows no partiality, 35 but in every nation anyone who fears him and does what is right is...
  23. I got no problem with that as a general...

    I got no problem with that as a general expression.
  24. Sure, and I agree. But lets look at Jesus when he...

    Sure, and I agree. But lets look at Jesus when he was talking to Nicodemus. When the author talks about the " world " what is more likely meant ? Every single person that has ever lived, or will live...
  25. The " all " passages have been mentioned. I am...

    The " all " passages have been mentioned. I am curious as to what part of the context of those passages show that we should interpret " all " as every single person who has ever lived, or ever will ?...
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