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    Consistently, I've expected better of you and...

    Consistently, I've expected better of you and have been consistently disappointed. If I'm being curt, it's not because I expected more from Republican congressmen but because I expected more from...
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    Trump asked Zelensky to investigate the Bidens on...

    Trump asked Zelensky to investigate the Bidens on July 25; Giuliani was pushing Zelensky's administration for those same investigations since May. Democrats had their "hissy fit" starting at the end...
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    You weren't asked to leave the previous thread...

    You weren't asked to leave the previous thread because you were being snarky; you were asked to leave because, right after agreeing with the concept of "You can be snarky but you also have to...
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    More pro-life Democratic members in the House and...

    More pro-life Democratic members in the House and Senate than Republicans who voted to impeach or convict Trump so I'm not sure that's the comparison you want to make.

    --Sam
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    I'm using that post to respond to another post on...

    I'm using that post to respond to another post on this thread that, once again, conveniently disappeared Justin Amash so that a mendacious talking point could be repeated. I respect both Amash's and...
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    Anyone whose brain hasn't fallen out can look at...

    Anyone whose brain hasn't fallen out can look at Amash's political career and political ideology, review the relevant articles and interviews, and understand perfectly well that Amash was pushed out...
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    Maybe the party can edge Romney out, too, and...

    Maybe the party can edge Romney out, too, and continue the mendacious claim that no Republicans voted to impeach or convict.

    --Sam
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    You're not responding to the argument -- more...

    You're not responding to the argument -- more accurately, you're walking around in circles.

    The question was asked what the President should do if he receives information of potential wrongdoing...
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    In truth, we just had months of investigation and...

    In truth, we just had months of investigation and prosecution detailing what Trump did before, during, and after his call with Zelensky.

    You started this out by saying that USA is legally...
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    That's not how any MLAT works or has worked in...

    That's not how any MLAT works or has worked in USA. It's just a complete misrepresentation of what the MLAT is for, which involves one country providing necessary documents or witnesses to an...
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    We do not have a legal agreement with Ukraine to...

    We do not have a legal agreement with Ukraine to investigate "any corruption" in Ukraine. That's literally crazy-talk. We have MLAT, which allows our investigatory agencies to cooperate on domestic...
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    It does not speak well that you see the "Opinion"...

    It does not speak well that you see the "Opinion" by-line and just proceed to dismiss the factual information that was cited in the article.

    There is a non-zero amount of information processing...
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    What do we know today that we didn't then? We...

    What do we know today that we didn't then? We knew then that Shokin was not prosecuting many cases, including Zolchevsky, because he was using the prosecutor's office as a bribery/extortion machine....
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    A) That didn't happen, as much as y'all want to...

    A) That didn't happen, as much as y'all want to make it a truth. Biden was implementing official US policy, in a manner that Republican senators knew about and approved.

    At a Senate Foreign...
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    Mountain Man has been asked to leave the thread...

    Mountain Man has been asked to leave the thread for changing usernames to insults so I'd appreciate it if folks stopped replying to his posts.

    Many thanks,

    --Sam
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    I'll expect MM to honor the ban without...

    I'll expect MM to honor the ban without inconveniencing moderators unnecessarily.

    What crime took place in Ukraine? Hunter Biden being on the board of a company? If he was getting illicit...
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    Yes, the extension of Dershowitz's argument is...

    Yes, the extension of Dershowitz's argument is that a two-term president doing an action to benefit his party would be viewed in the national interest.

    So we're agreed that if a president somehow...
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    You have been warned time and time again against...

    You have been warned time and time again against changing people's names in post and have spent nearly every post on this thread ignoring my requests.

    I have said changing names to insults is an...
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    This will be my last request for you to A) stop...

    This will be my last request for you to A) stop quoting snippets of posts and B) respond in detail to what I've written. I'm not kicking you out but you will hopefully be seen for the insufferable...
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    I made it plain in my OP, and clarified further...

    I made it plain in my OP, and clarified further in subsequent posts, after describing Dershowitz's and Philbin's arguments, that their arguments applied to categories of information like stolen...
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    You quoted Dershowitz directly, who validated my...

    You quoted Dershowitz directly, who validated my explanation of "mixed motive" in the OP. If you can't/won't contribute to the discussion in a useful way, you're asked to refrain from posting. If you...
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    Read the OP, perhaps for the first time, and you...

    Read the OP, perhaps for the first time, and you will see that I accurately described Dershowitz's theory of mixed motive.
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    Your argument is that if Obama received...

    Your argument is that if Obama received information from a foreign source, he should send it to the FBI for investigation. That's not what happened -- Obama was not involved with any FBI decision to...
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    If you are going to respond to posts -- mine or...

    If you are going to respond to posts -- mine or others -- do not cut off sentences or thoughts.

    I did not add any qualifications to Philbin's criteria. I applied two types of information that fit...
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    I've presented Philbin's argument fairly,...

    I've presented Philbin's argument fairly, outlined his criteria for what's acceptable, and explained its application to stolen emails and disinformation.

    You understand that and you choose...
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