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    Are you saying the Supreme Court is never wrong?

    Are you saying the Supreme Court is never wrong?
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    No one knew it was illegal - you know why Jim?...

    No one knew it was illegal - you know why Jim? Because the Constitution NEVER ADDRESSES it! And you can't show where it does...
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    Again Jim, secession was not illegal, certainly...

    Again Jim, secession was not illegal, certainly not then. No matter what the court made up after the fact. It was not illegal when they did it...
  4. Tell me Jim, when there is a moral disagreement,...

    Tell me Jim, when there is a moral disagreement, apart from God, where do you go for the answer?



    I have no idea what that means.
  5. I think those penalties would be just, but a...

    I think those penalties would be just, but a society also should practice mercy.
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    From CNN no less...

    From CNN no less...
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    No Jim, the North would not leave after repeated...

    No Jim, the North would not leave after repeated requests to do so, and the South did not invade the the North. The North were the invaders.
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    Right, so if Texas decided to secede we should...

    Right, so if Texas decided to secede we should invade, kill a lot of Texans and force them to stay... Got it...
  9. I'm speaking to what Jim B. believes, not what...

    I'm speaking to what Jim B. believes, not what you believe.
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    Right, which gives a lie to their argument...

    Right, which gives a lie to their argument...
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    Jim, the Articles of the Confederation are not US...

    Jim, the Articles of the Confederation are not US law - period. And if you want to go there we can say that the South was following principles found in the Declaration. You have no argument. Also are...
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    Waterboard This...

    Sticking to his guns...
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    Again Jim, show me that in the Constitution,...

    Again Jim, show me that in the Constitution, after all the Court decided against Dred Scott, and up held racial segregation laws...
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    So it isn't about gun violence after all....

    So it isn't about gun violence after all....
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    Really? Show it to me in the Constitution, not...

    Really? Show it to me in the Constitution, not what some court made up after the fact.
  16. Thread: Guns and speech

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    Oh, OK...

    Oh, OK...
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    So? They still refused to leave. Again Bill, if...

    So? They still refused to leave. Again Bill, if England refused to leave a garrison that controlled the Boston harbor what would we have done? Yes, kicked them out. The South gave them a number of...
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    Either was the split between North and South -...

    Either was the split between North and South - the North was never going to let the South go. That is why they invaded...
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    That is the problem when allowing the ignorant to...

    That is the problem when allowing the ignorant to vote.
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    Why? How many other Federal properties in their...

    Why? How many other Federal properties in their newly minted country would they have to negotiate for? It is like saying that England could keep a fortress overlooking the Boston harbor.
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    Whether one actually does violence or not. ...

    Whether one actually does violence or not.



    So what is your point?
  23. And the fact that I have never seen a moral...

    And the fact that I have never seen a moral realist define what is good without begging the question. Or as Jim B. did just assert that moral truths were axioms.
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    That is a lie Shuny, stop lying about me. I'm...

    That is a lie Shuny, stop lying about me. I'm presenting how the South would view these things, NOWHERE did I say I agree. And there is no Constitutional prohibition against succession, that is a...
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    One man's traitor is another man's freedom...

    One man's traitor is another man's freedom fighter...
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