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    Well, all I'm after here is that drawing is...

    Well, all I'm after here is that drawing is effectual, all who are called are justified.

    Blessings,
    Lee
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    Well, not all are drawn right now, is my...

    Well, not all are drawn right now, is my conclusion. And "if they accept" is not in the verse I quoted, drawing is effectual...

    "And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also...
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    Well, it's pretty clearly an implication of...

    Well, it's pretty clearly an implication of saying "I will raise him [who is drawn] up".

    Blessings,
    Lee
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    Faith in the God of Israel, praying to him for...

    Faith in the God of Israel, praying to him for help, giving to others as an act of faith. Cornelius was a "God-fearer", a Gentile belonging to God through faith such as Abraham had, even before he...
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    But not "may not come" but rather "will not come"...

    But not "may not come" but rather "will not come" here. This is not the best of verses to explain free will here--and you have not addressed my point from Scripture that all who are drawn will come....
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    A further point can be made, in the Greek it's...

    A further point can be made, in the Greek it's "him", not "them", in both places--so this is definitely talking about the same person, and thus the same group of people.

    Blessings,
    Lee
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    "No one can come to me unless the Father who sent...

    "No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day." (John 6:44)

    "Them" would refer to the same people in both phrases, so then all who are...
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    We might also add John 12:32: "And I, when I...

    We might also add John 12:32:

    "And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself."

    But not all are drawn at once:

    "No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me...
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    I believe he was a believer, like Abraham, the...

    I believe he was a believer, like Abraham, the example for us of saving faith. But he needed to put faith in Christ, just like the disciples of John the Baptist did. If they were truly believers,...
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