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    But where are you getting 400 million years from?...

    But where are you getting 400 million years from?

    The earliest known life forms on Earth are putative fossilized microorganisms found in hydrothermal vent precipitates.[1] The earliest time that...
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    Well, I did call my estimate a...

    Well, I did call my estimate a back-of-the-envelope. But I would be glad to focus on Hubert Yockey's estimate or the estimate in this other paper.


    Then the question becomes, do we have enough...
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    I'm not proposing, I'm quoting how people in...

    I'm not proposing, I'm quoting how people in science use it, have you heard of five sigma? But nature is full of random processes, and you are denying this.

    Blessings,
    Lee
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    And all of these require a ribozyme, which...

    And all of these require a ribozyme, which appears to be inordinately improbable to form.


    Well, not blatantly wrong. In all these scenarios, you still need major biomolecules to form randomly,...
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    Well, I was asked for my calculation. But...

    Well, I was asked for my calculation.


    But I've granted unlimited resources, unlimited constituents, all that is needed is assembly.

    Blessings,
    Lee
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    Yes. Well, as I have heard, the RNA-world...

    Yes.


    Well, as I have heard, the RNA-world hypothesis is the leading origin-of-life candidate.


    I'm not sure I'm understanding you here, if the argument is successful, then natural causes are...
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    And random events make up a random process: In...

    And random events make up a random process:

    In probability theory and related fields, a stochastic or random process is a mathematical object usually defined as a family of random variables....
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    I can allow a lot of variance with 1087 to work...

    I can allow a lot of variance with 1087 to work with. How many basic catalytic RNA types do you suppose there are? Thousands? Millions? They all get swallowed up by 1087.


    Well, why so?


    But...
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    Many natural processes are indeed random: The...

    Many natural processes are indeed random:

    The square of the wave function, Ψ2, however, does have physical significance: the probability of finding the particle described by a specific wave...
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    Well, how so? "Testing ... the null...

    Well, how so?


    "Testing ... the null hypothesis … is a central task in the modern practice of science" (Wikipedia)


    And are you familiar (I ask again) with five sigma? It's probability...
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    I allowed for other ribozyme structures by...

    I allowed for other ribozyme structures by allowing each nucleotide to change, I believe. And I tried to pick an average size molecule, which would address your second concern.


    A gram is a huge...
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    Mercy to you all... Lee

    Mercy to you all...

    Lee
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    This is not complicated, they claimed to have...

    This is not complicated, they claimed to have synthesized RNA, but they only synthesized some of RNA's building blocks. Their stated next step was to synthesize ribose, another component of RNA.
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    To repeat, "Testing ... the null hypothesis … is...

    To repeat, "Testing ... the null hypothesis … is a central task in the modern practice of science" (Wikipedia) Many natural processes (notably chemical reactions) are describable as random processes....
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    They do all the time, it's called falsifying the...

    They do all the time, it's called falsifying the null hypothesis, in statistics. "Testing (accepting, approving, rejecting, or disproving) the null hypothesis—and thus concluding that there are (or...
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    Because the probability calculations start with...

    Because the probability calculations start with the constituents already formed, and just needing assembly.


    I'd have to buy his paper to justify his conclusions--but presumably the editors...
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    Well, that's what Hubert Yockey did...

    Well, that's what Hubert Yockey did, isn't it? "A calculation of the probability of spontaneous biogenesis by information theory."

    And I did a back-of-the-envelope for a ribozyme in another...
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    And if knowing him is key to having eternal life,...

    And if knowing him is key to having eternal life, the answer would appear to be yes. And as far as Jesus being creator-God, see John 1:10:

    ἐν τῷ κόσμῳ ἦν, καὶ ὁ κόσμος διʼ αὐτοῦ ἐγένετο, καὶ ὁ...
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    I think we know enough to estimate the...

    I think we know enough to estimate the probability of a biomolecule forming randomly.


    He does indeed make an argument, good enough to be published. Are you implying that the editors of the...
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    No, we only need to be able to say our knowledge...

    No, we only need to be able to say our knowledge of the situation is reasonably comprehensive.


    No, he's using cytochrome c as an analog for a complex first biomolecule.


    Well, he says...
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    Yes, so then Jacob became in effect, the...

    Yes, so then Jacob became in effect, the firstborn. But this doesn't address the point that knowing Jesus is key to having eternal life!

    Blessings,
    Lee
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    That kind of proves the point that "κυριος" is...

    That kind of proves the point that "κυριος" is another name for God.


    But it sets him apart from all people, so Jesus is no mere man.


    But this doesn't address the point that knowing Jesus is...
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    Yes, God in the Trinity knows all things. That is...

    Yes, God in the Trinity knows all things. That is not to say that some detail couldn't be hidden from a member of the Trinity.

    Blessings,
    Lee
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    I noted a claim that RNA had been synthesized,...

    I noted a claim that RNA had been synthesized, "RNA has been synthesized in conditions that may have resembled those on the early Earth." Only they didn't synthesize RNA, so this claim is false.

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    We can estimate the probability of certain events...

    We can estimate the probability of certain events in nature, such as the formation of a biomolecule randomly.


    My point was that forensic analysis is acceptable and widely acknowledged.


    Yes,...
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