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  1. The so-called free-grace–lordship salvation...

    The so-called free-grace–lordship salvation debate may be reduced to the question of whether deliverance from the power and practice of sin is, in some sense, optional or extraneous to the attainment...
  2. A couple of points are in order here: No one...

    A couple of points are in order here:

    No one has, or ever will, be justified/declared righteous by observing a system of law: ‘[B]y works of law no flesh shall be justified before him; for by law...
  3. It is helpful to refer persons to authors and/or...

    It is helpful to refer persons to authors and/or works that closely align to the position that one is advocating. It is very possible that some (if not many) who read your messages on TheologyWeb are...
  4. What is pertinent to this discussion is...

    What is pertinent to this discussion is Obsidian’s conviction that all Christians who maintain the necessity of repentance as a prerequisite to salvation are guilty of adhering to a kind of...
  5. The ground of justification is the redemptive...

    The ground of justification is the redemptive work of Christ. The instrumental cause of justification is faith. As indispensable as repentance is for salvation, we are never told anywhere in...
  6. I do not desire to carry on in an empty exchange...

    I do not desire to carry on in an empty exchange whereby it is expected of me that I clear myself of one false, unsubstantiated claim after another from an anonymous forum user who evidently does not...
  7. Thank you for calling attention to Teresa...

    Thank you for calling attention to Teresa Morgan’s work. Matthew Bates cites her book, Roman Faith and Christian Faith (2015), in four places in Salvation by Allegiance Alone (2017): p. 23 n. 9; p....
  8. Yes, and this implies the necessity of repentance...

    Yes, and this implies the necessity of repentance in order for one to be saved. I believe that we are both in agreement on this issue.

    Calvinists (of which I believe that you are one) believe that...
  9. (1) To be clear, in message number 143 on this...

    (1) To be clear, in message number 143 on this thread (above), I was quoting Matthew Bates’ work, Salvation by Allegiance Alone (2017). The quotation is indented and properly cited. It is true,...
  10. I would agree that the warning in Revelation 21.8...

    I would agree that the warning in Revelation 21.8 most likely serves as a warning to Christ-followers that apostates, who are the opposite of those who overcome (v. 7), will receive eschatological...
  11. Regardless of how it may be received by you, I...

    Regardless of how it may be received by you, I shall provide an excerpt from Bates’ Salvation by Allegiance Alone (2017):


    Confession of Jesus as Lord is an expression of allegiance to him as the...
  12. Biblical, new-covenant, saving faith lays hold of...

    Biblical, new-covenant, saving faith lays hold of the God who raised Jesus from the dead, confessing allegiance to Jesus as Lord (Rom. 10.9–13).

    The present state of any given individual, whether...
  13. On the contrary, all of the reasons that I...

    On the contrary, all of the reasons that I provided point to present salvational uncertainty arising as a result of a person’s subjective experience, not God’s objective scriptural revelation. ‘Am I...
  14. I would agree that, ideally, a believer, one who...

    I would agree that, ideally, a believer, one who is united to Christ, would always have the assurance of his or her salvation. That said, if I am understanding you correctly, I cannot agree with you...
  15. One may believe in the reality of God and his...

    One may believe in the reality of God and his readiness to reward those that are seeking him (Heb. 11.6), yet be unsure of the authenticity of his or her faith and/or repentance. Is the assurance of...
  16. The instances you cite relate specifically to the...

    The instances you cite relate specifically to the temporal healing/deliverance of persons by Jesus of Nazareth. They believed that Jesus had the power and authority to perform great wonders.
  17. To be clear, I have not yet taken a stance on...

    To be clear, I have not yet taken a stance on Bates’ proposal. Presently, I must reserve my judgement, as further reflection and study are required.
  18. These seem to be rather biting assertions. ...

    These seem to be rather biting assertions.



    Even if it were granted that the majority of English Bible translations have rendered pistis and pisteuō in a less-than-optimal fashion in many...
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  20. For a twenty-page critique of Bates’ Salvation by...

    For a twenty-page critique of Bates’ Salvation by Allegiance Alone (2017), see Will N. Timmins, ‘A Faith Unlike Abraham’s: Matthew Bates on Salvation by Allegiance Alone’, Journal of the Evangelical...
  21. Thank you for your reply. Your understanding of...

    Thank you for your reply. Your understanding of πίστις , pistis as ‘fidelity’ or ‘faithfulness’ comports well with Matthew W. Bates’ recently published proposal, Salvation by Allegiance Alone:...
  22. I do not believe that social-club congregations...

    I do not believe that social-club congregations have much of a problem in maintaining a belief in some kind of amorphous deity. That said, you will likely hear more reference to a god (generically...
  23. The notion that the believer will inevitably...

    The notion that the believer will inevitably persevere in the faith is held by Calvinists, yes, and is closely tied to the doctrines of unconditional election to salvation and irresistible...
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    Yes, Lj, I recalled that you were an open theist...

    Yes, Lj, I recalled that you were an open theist (and an annihilationist as well, if my memory serves me rightly).
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    For those who might wish to explore this ‘warfare...

    For those who might wish to explore this ‘warfare world view’, see the following works from Gregory A. Boyd:

    God at War: The Bible and Spiritual Conflict (Downers Grove, IL: IVP Academic, 1997);...
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