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    Poll: Sounds like this is still being floated....

    Sounds like this is still being floated. Hopefully, this plan will just float away on the wind.
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    Sounds like to me the Republicans calculated...

    Sounds like to me the Republicans calculated slyly, and exploited a chance opportunity, and cheated their enemy.
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    Its anyone's guess, I honestly don't know anymore.

    Its anyone's guess, I honestly don't know anymore.
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    And Jews were forced, pressured, coerced and...

    And Jews were forced, pressured, coerced and persecuted systematically under Christian rule, from the Church Fathers (which both the Eastern Orthodox and Catholics raise to the altars). Or I could...
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    On the contrary, its the opposite to what you're...

    On the contrary, its the opposite to what you're claiming. For the majority of history conversion to Islam has not been under threat. Wahabi Islam is a relatively recent phenomenon, otherwise, you...
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    You said specifically, and I'll quote it back to...

    You said specifically, and I'll quote it back to you "Did you find it on some secular or skeptic website that attempted to twist it into something that Piper didn't intend?"

    KingsGambit also found...
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    Except when you apply even a little exegesis, you...

    Except when you apply even a little exegesis, you quickly run into it being a lot more complex than "kill the infidel", you run into a historical situation where conversion is almost never under...
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    You're not interacting with the quote at all, so...

    You're not interacting with the quote at all, so I'll repeat it.

    For the Quran its not at all clear. Ask around and you will get several answers. Most scholars I have found argue that it is indeed...
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    Nope, you're not allowed to argue with context...

    Nope, you're not allowed to argue with context and exegesis, if you don't extend the same right to Muslims.



    There are five major branches of Islam, within those there are further distinctions....
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    Its not at all a reasonable position to take, you...

    Its not at all a reasonable position to take, you basically poisoned the well up front, and even made assumptions about where I'd gotten the information. I'll try to track down the threads and...
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    This doctrine can only be applied when you know...

    This doctrine can only be applied when you know which Surah abrogates what. Its the same in the Bible, except as it's laid out in chronological order (except for some of the Old Testament), we can...
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    I remember asking Cow Poke why he never...

    I remember asking Cow Poke why he never criticises Conservatives, and he answered "Because they're already criticised by the leftists all the time, so I don't have to"
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    Why are you allowed to apply context,...

    Why are you allowed to apply context, interpretation and exegesis to the Bible, but the Quran has to be interpreted the same way atheists interpret the Bible?
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    Hey, you're the one dressed as a pirate Sparko....

    Hey, you're the one dressed as a pirate Sparko. :tongue:
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    Seriously? You're not being ironic right now or...

    Seriously? You're not being ironic right now or larping?
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    It is a quote-mine because of the fact almost...

    It is a quote-mine because of the fact almost every single Islam Scholar worth their salt would quote you the simple verse that says that there's to be no force in conversion; They'd then make a...
  17. To be fair I don't know if I'd want to keep...

    To be fair I don't know if I'd want to keep living if I had Lou Gehrigs, especially not if I became entire locked-in, unable even to move my eyes or interact with the world in any way. I'd probably...
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    And I can easily imagine some weird Christian...

    And I can easily imagine some weird Christian sect believing that because God commanded genocide, then genocide cannot be evil. And use that to defend completely annihilating some other group in a...
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    She's condemned the terrorism, you're just mad...

    She's condemned the terrorism, you're just mad she doesn't blame it on Islam.
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    The Bible has an entire section where God Himself...

    The Bible has an entire section where God Himself called openly for genocide. And that it was explicit genocide as well, with even children being killed as part of the order.



    So does the...
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    That's a rather antagonistic approach to take...

    That's a rather antagonistic approach to take towards non-Christian sources, some of the sources though that I remember were Christian. Long before I was a Christian I was a feminist, and I still...
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    They often do. But do you think that sells more...

    They often do. But do you think that sells more clicks?
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    Yes, but its a silly statement, because if...

    Yes, but its a silly statement, because if Muslims - as most in the West do - those terrorist acts are fundamentally against Islamic Law, then they can just as well use the same defense. At any rate,...
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    I just believe Muslims in the West, for no other...

    I just believe Muslims in the West, for no other reason than this, deserve to be treated with the benefit of the doubt.



    I will also have to grant this. There's no doubt that there's a lot of...
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    Or claim that the person isn't a Christian,...

    Or claim that the person isn't a Christian, because Christian people don't do that.



    We must be reading about other Muslims, because those I'm aware of do not celebrate that stuff.
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