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Who is "Creo?"

jesus claimed he existed before Abraham. How could that be if he was created when he was born in Bethlehem?

Your other misunderstanding about the trinity is that you believe the human Jesus is all...

Yeah! Like relativity for instance!

You go John! :lol:

You are the one who ignores scripture. I gave you a ton and you just dismissed them all.

You are heaping burning coals on your own head.

exactly what is JM's point anyway? Whether we are talking about a geocentric or heliocentric model, the moon still orbits the earth.

barley never heard of "fify" before!

:lmbo:

here's a clue. Your posts are not scripture. they are the ramblings of a deranged mind.

fify

What about when Jesus said:

John 8:58
“Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!”

and

John 10:
30 I and the Father are one.”

Barley, is the Son created?

It had to happen!!!

3D Printed Bacon!

http://www.geekosystem.com/3d-printed-meat-modern-meadow/
Modern Meadow, a biotech startup, is working on 3D-printing meat for the masses...

Modern...

I am waiting for the 4D printers! Or maybe 5D!

I liked Heinlein's early work but toward the end it got very hedonistic and just darn right weird. His books seemed all about politics and orgies.

They should be down to the under $500 range in a couple of years.

from what I understand, anyone can be a unitarian, including atheists and agnostics.

"The term Unitarian is most commonly applied today to those who belong to a Unitarian church but who do not...

You are confusing your own ignorance with being correct.

footwasher,

You are doing to our posts what you do to the bible. You pick one word or sentence and reply to it, and ignore everything else and think that somehow supports your argument.

It...

I was leaning toward the tether ball theory. You know, where there is a string tied to the moon and it is slung around the earth so that the same face always faces us? :yes:

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uh you mean like you just ignored everything I said and quoted?

Romans 2 is the introduction to Paul's thesis on salvation. You are taking one verse in isolation and ignoring everything else. He...

so if someone has a deathbed conversion (or a battlefield conversion) then it doesn't matter because they have no chance to do good works before dying. So they go to hell, eh?

You love to take...

Omnisckeptical, answer me... do you even believe in God? What do you believe as a unitarian?


It seems that you are just here to stir the pot.

wrong.

John 20:28

And 2532 (Kai) kaið kahee
Thomas 2381 (Thomas) Qwma=v tho-mas'
answered 611 (Apokrinomai) a)pokriðnomai ap-ok-ree'-nom-ahee
and 2532 (Kai) kaið kahee
...

do you even believe in God?


feel free to check the Greek out at http://www.studylight.org/desk/interlinear.cgi?q1=&x=6&y=8

well it shows that you have no interest in a civil discussion, nor of actually understanding what the trinity is.

There is only one God. YHWH.

The Father is fully God. The Holy Spirit is fully...

No one has disputed that. Just that the works EARN you salvation. It doesn't






But not salvation.

You quoted someone else's definition of the trinity. I was asking for YOU to give me the definition of what you believe the doctrine teaches so that we could see if you actually understood what we...

huh? That makes no sense at all.

I think everyone here will agree that doing good works is what a true follower of Jesus will do. But not to EARN salvation. BECAUSE we are saved.

I noticed how you changed "deeds" to "work" when...

Cooking tip:

Making the perfect corn on the cob:

1. Buy the corn on with the entire husks and all attached.
2. Microwave each ear for about 4-5 min (leave husk on)
3. On the stem end, cut...

That explains hairthulu.

The best he can do is quote someone else's definition. It shows that he doesn't know what the Trinity is at all. In fact, it sounds like he believes it is modalism since he confuses the persons of...

How many good deeds? Do they have to counter balance the bad you did in your life?

What about the thief on the cross? How many good deeds did he do?

It does vary a bit because of the elliptical orbit. But it cancels out on the other side of the orbit in the opposite direction. It appears as a slight wobble in what we can see of the moon:
...

I had a feeling you would say something like that. I asked for a definition of the doctrine of the trinity, not your understanding of how it works, nor of you acceptance of it. If you want to claim...

wow you really are a nutcase. Did you not notice the quote I had in my post of yours where you just acccused me of not knowing how to use the quote function? If your powers are observation are that...

2 Peter 1:1 Simon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who through the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ have received a faith as precious as ours:

Titus 2:13...

Barley, if you want to discuss the trinity, please show us that you at least understand the doctrine.

Please post in your own words what the Trinity is. You don't have to agree with it, but at...

are you on drugs? The post below mine is the one where you said this. (see quote above)

what question are you asking? The one ABOVE my post? That was what my post was answering. You obviously have...

To be fair, there are many atheists that are just like them, who make statements that show they neither understand evolution, science or atheism but are just in it for the "hate" of religion.

The word is Jesus. Jesus is God. God is not just Jesus. Because the Father is God and the Holy Spirit is God, and Jesus is not the HS or the Father.

At least try to understand the trinity before...

I hear kicking cats can relieve pain in the teeth. Although it might cause pain in the legs as the cats fight back. Just a thought.

That's what happened with my mom, who died last year of lung cancer. She hung on through the night and her breathing was getting ragged. The hospice nurse who was staying with her while we slept woke...

I wuz shwondring ifsh anyboddie wosh get that *hic*

or head.

I take the 5th.

Just promise me that no matter what you don't become a vivianite.

May God bless you and your seeking of him, Ke7.

Just remember Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. (jn 14:6)

how can they patent something they did not invent in the first place? It would be like patenting the letter "A" in the alphabet. Worse, it is like patenting water. Genes should be public domain, and...

as usual, anyone who doesn't agree with you is not a Christian. sheesh.

I would say just about any Christian has problems with what you claim much of the time Stef. You make stuff up, make...

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