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    Adam and Eve never existed. Here are my...

    Adam and Eve never existed. Here are my arguments.

    PART 1................

    Adam and Eve? : The Inheritance of Sex or Why Men Have Nipples (the Embryological Evidence)

    The Bible claims that...
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    Re: Is the Human Race Running Down?

    You are really talking about two DIFFERENT things, the genetic disease AND the frequency of the gene in the population (the article). There are 4 ways or "modes" to inherit a genetic disorder...
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    Re: Atheists are willingly ignorant of creationist contributions to medicine

    Speaking of propaganda, let's analyze the AIG propaganda about Pasteur and Lister being creationist. Did either of them EVER claim that they believed your YEC interpretation of Genesis. From what...
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    Re: Eggs from men

    The notion that one could get "eggs from men" is not a surprise when one remembers that the male body plan is really just an alteration of the female body plan. This in and of itself is a disproof...
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    First of all, for quadrillionth...

    First of all, for quadrillionth time,===>Evolution has NOTHING to do with Abiogenesis!!!

    Second, and your citation(s) for the claims you make is (are)?????
    Here's a synopsis of the currents state...
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    Poll: Since you use NFP, have you heard of a device...

    Since you use NFP, have you heard of a device that greatly increases the accuracy of this method? It is the Persona fertility monitor, that is in wide use in Europe.
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    Poll: Only the sperm and egg are haploid. Every other...

    Only the sperm and egg are haploid. Every other cell is diploid and carries the genetic blueprint of the individual. It is therefore theoretically possible to clone that individual millions of...
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    Poll: What concept did I NOT answer? (start another...

    What concept did I NOT answer? (start another thread)



    1.I told you that a fertilized egg with a genetic blueprint is not any more special that any cell in your body which also has your unique...
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    Poll: Questions: 1. So, I am not allowed to answer a...

    Questions:
    1. So, I am not allowed to answer a message like Kyle's et al addressed to me in this thread?

    2. You claim that my "rhetoric was blatantly untrue and inflammatory and slanderous". ...
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    Poll: I don't believe that it IS irrelevant to your...

    I don't believe that it IS irrelevant to your argument, but is in FACT the foundation of it. What else do you mean when you claim that a conceptus is "alive"? A PRECISE definition would be most...
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    Poll: Again, define what you mean by "life begins at...

    Again, define what you mean by "life begins at conception", Jinx. I don't think that you mean just biochemical life, because the egg and sperm that made that conception were also "alive".

    This...
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    Poll: So "life" begins at conception??? What do you...

    So "life" begins at conception??? What do you mean by that, EXACTLY?

    Actually the egg and sperm are "alive", as is every functioning cell in the body of the woman in whom a conception may occur. ...
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    Response to Kyle's Post 34...

    Response to Kyle's Post 34

    Since you make your only case here in this post, I will not address any of the others UNLESS there is some point you think I have overlooked.......


    So we don't keep...
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    Today @ 07:46 AM post located here...

    [QUOTE]Today @ 07:46 AM post located here
    Kyle:

    ~~~~Show me the exact quote where I stated that Jim's personhood was a dependent on his being born. ~~~~~


    Well finally something we agree on.
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    You haven't demonstrated that abortion is...

    You haven't demonstrated that abortion is "killing" (deliberate murder)


    Sound more like you are 'getting any" so you don't want any one else to either.



    Far be it from me to discourage...
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    You may not have started the thread for that, but...

    You may not have started the thread for that, but your position is obviously that a fetus is a person.



    It is you who thinks the fetus is a person. It is not my place to have to try and prove...
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    I NEVER made claim that being born was a...

    I NEVER made claim that being born was a requirement of personhood and was pointing out to YOU that Jim was born and there was NO argument that he was a person. He remains one, even if profoundly...
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    My apologies, I have edited those posts that ...

    My apologies, I have edited those posts that still allowed it to remove the color red.
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    Why is it ridiculous? You merely claim it it so...

    Why is it ridiculous? You merely claim it it so without giving any reason. You are comparing apples (Jim already here) to an embryo that is demonstrably NOT on the same level as Jim because Jim...
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    Yesterday @ 08:47 PM post located here...

    [QUOTE]Yesterday @ 08:47 PM post located here
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    No I don't think you have any business meddling in the private affairs of others. On what grounds do you think that you...
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    Response to InquisitorKind's Post...

    Response to InquisitorKind's Post



    First, it is you who claim that the fetus IS a PERSON. The burden of proof here is yours, not mine or do I have to explain to you that the claimant with the...
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    Response to Kyles' Post...

    Response to Kyles' Post



    [b]Your analogy is irrelevant for the following reasons: Jim is already accorded the status of personhood in that he is BORN and now represents a considerable...
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    Response to InquisitorKind's (IK) Post...

    Response to InquisitorKind's (IK) Post



    I noticed you COMPLETELY ignored the part about the using the appearance of brain-waves in the fetus as a sign that the fetus was now a person...
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    Oh right...what kind of "lesson" is a terminally...

    Oh right...what kind of "lesson" is a terminally ill person going to "learn" that is going to be of value here? I've got a really good idea that might appeal to you INQUISTIORkind...why not deprive...
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    Re: The Root of the Abortion Debate

    I'll take a shot at that "personhood" question My apologies for the length, but this question does not have a simple answer.......

    THE QUESTION OF "PERSONHOOD"

    If the end of an individual's...
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    Well, another smug Christain! I just looovvve...

    Well, another smug Christain! I just looovvve all these examples of Christian "humility"!! One of the most thoroughly obnoxious attitudes exhibited by some Christians is the notion that somehow...
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    Re: Trilemma

    I think that it's a false Trilemma. There are more than these 3 possibilities. Here's another....

    I tend to be more of the opinion of Thomas Jefferson who viewed Jesus as a great, MORTAL sage...
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    Re: Anthropic Principle

    This is the old fine tuning argument. It seems to go like this...the odds are just too great for the universe to exists with the constants that support life (our kind--the "odds" according to IDist...
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    The Tap-dance king rides again!!!

    1. Note that Soc just claims this is so WITHOUT showing that I in fact committed such a fallacy.

    2. Also note that Soc doesn't explain what a genetic fallacy is or how it applies to my detailing...
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    Response to Socrates Post #55...

    Response to Socrates Post #55
    When asked to support his allegation that religioustolerance.org is bigoted against Christians, Socrates said


    Well instead of listing even one site from...
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    No, gladiatrix is a female gladiator. This is...

    No, gladiatrix is a female gladiator. This is from an A&E special on the Roman games where they presented evidence that women gladiators (gladiatrices, gladiatrix singular) were on the play-bill.
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    And your evidence that they are bigoted is???? ...

    And your evidence that they are bigoted is???? It would seem that you are alleging that these sites can't be trusted simply because they may not agree with your hard-line literal interpretation, ...
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    You seem to have overlooked the vast majority of...

    You seem to have overlooked the vast majority of what I wrote which had to do with more to do with the new findings in neurobiology (which you ignore and imply that the thrust of my post was the NDE,...
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    You haven't shown that my citations are flawed. ...

    You haven't shown that my citations are flawed. And I find your posturing about my citations hilarious in light of the fact that you site AIG which is NOTHING but religion and NOT science.

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    Re: Re: Almost scary - but we agree!

    I'm rather new here and was reading the beginning of this thread when I came across the above... It's off topic as I see at this end of the thread, but I couldn't let his remarks pass unchallenged......
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    The Flood story is a falsifiable claim, just...

    The Flood story is a falsifiable claim, just using the history of other cultures and the archeological record......

    The Biblical flood didn't happen. This is a falsifiable date.The Bible gives...
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    God, an artifact of brain chemistry?

    Good Evening, All! This is my first post. and to the above assertion I say :rofl: !
    This one is one of the toughest to argue because the science investigating paranomal and religious experiences...
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