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    Not just the hospital, the ICU. I wonder what his...

    Not just the hospital, the ICU. I wonder what his story will be when he returns to public life.
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    The 1 to 2 million is the US, not the globe. It...

    The 1 to 2 million is the US, not the globe. It is not a garbage number either. That is the mortality that is being seen, that is what the numbers show, even factoring in the 50% asymptomatic number...
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    Yeah - there has been some reporting on it on...

    Yeah - there has been some reporting on it on CNN. It is not trivial. A large number of important but not emergency procedures are having to be postponed. That will result in not detecting some...
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    Emotion is overriding my reason - :lol: Dude, I'm...

    Emotion is overriding my reason - :lol: Dude, I'm not the one pumping conspiracy theories and denying the plain data and facts. The sort of death this thing brings should scare anyone - only fools...
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    The truth about this virus is scary. What is...

    The truth about this virus is scary. What is scary about it is not the raw numbers that get sick enough to die, it's how they die, and the fact that it's a game of Russian roulette. Yeah, maybe you...
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    I could say: "Be it unto you as you have spoken",...

    I could say: "Be it unto you as you have spoken", but that is not actually what I'm looking for. What I'm looking for is for posters like you to find their soul.
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    It is significant. As has been pointed out, they...

    It is significant. As has been pointed out, they are burying 6 to 8 times the normal number of unclaimed bodies. That picture shows an array of about 30 coffins stacked two deep. 3 weeks worth under...
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    I know you didn't mossrose. But you did ask if...

    I know you didn't mossrose. But you did ask if you should 'just' take my word for it. :wink:
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    I don't lie mossrose. Period. I have never, ever...

    I don't lie mossrose. Period. I have never, ever lied about anything on this site. And in fact, I do something almost no one here ever does, I admit it when I'm wrong.

    Yes - you should feel quite...
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    See, you are buying into that same lie so many...

    See, you are buying into that same lie so many others have.

    1) We have a vacine for the flu that reduces the death toll.
    2) This virus' capacity to kill to at least 10x that of the flu, and it...
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    not even close. We still have folks like...

    not even close. We still have folks like mikewhitney and demi-conservative that would still like to pretend this is nothing more than an overblown media hyped fakastrophy.

    Although I would be...
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    well nooo.... thankfully. There be a lot of...

    well nooo.... thankfully. There be a lot of mileage between the flu and the black death ...
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    Yeah - It's just like the flu ...

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    One picture is worth 1000 words.
  14. You didn't even read the article (or the many...

    You didn't even read the article (or the many others available on the topic) did you? You're shooting from the 'we can't know anything all because <insert excuse here>' hip that YEC's hail from. It...
  15. I would tend to agree. The problem with much of...

    I would tend to agree. The problem with much of this is there is always some little kernal of fact woven in. For example, the nutters that are tearing down 5G towers claiming the impact of covid is...
  16. No, by recognizing his base is being led astray...

    No, by recognizing his base is being led astray in their zeal to defend him and simply tell them the truth. They'll believ and act on whatever he says.



    DE, you are the victim of a polarizing...
  17. So much for science, reason, and objectivity. You...

    So much for science, reason, and objectivity. You do realize you've simply now been reduced to name calling out of anger and what looks every bit like hate, though I'm sure you,ll deny that is the...
  18. No silly, I blame trump for ignoring the warning...

    No silly, I blame trump for ignoring the warning signs and not moving forward with what was necessary to keep from needing the sort of measures we are dealing with now. First and foremost, mobilizing...
  19. The virus is the virus. It behaves in certain...

    The virus is the virus. It behaves in certain ways. So you don't need to contract trace every case to derive R0. You just need to analyze a sufficiently large sample.

    Here is a link to analysis of...
  20. No I'm not. "patients" are people IN THE...

    No I'm not. "patients" are people IN THE HOSPITAL. You've been misusing the term patient to mean cases it appears. but I have ALWAYS been talking about patients - people in the hospital needing...
  21. I don't need to 'parrot' demi. I go to the data,...

    I don't need to 'parrot' demi. I go to the data, I do the calculations.

    R0 is the number of patients infected by a single patient. that and the available population defines what the peak number of...
  22. Italy has over 18000 dead. They still have over...

    Italy has over 18000 dead. They still have over 90,000 sick patients our of 140,000+ cases. and they have 3600 people currently in serious to critical condition. The measured asymptomatic case rate...
  23. Sorry demi. The attempts to play this as somehow...

    Sorry demi. The attempts to play this as somehow overblown are being fostered by ideologues not scientists. You need to think better, more clearly.

    The peak number of patients per day depends on...
  24. No demi. You are the one with the faulty...

    No demi. You are the one with the faulty reasoning. The increase in fatality rate, day to day, is due to the virus. The normal daily fatality rate does not do this. Nor does the normal daily fatality...
  25. 1) the doubling time is not constant. In the...

    1) the doubling time is not constant. In the early phases of the disease, it varied from as little as 4 days to as much as 7. It is currently down to 7 again.

    2) your estimate is wrong because...
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