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    kal va-khomer (Argumentum a minori ad maius). In...

    kal va-khomer (Argumentum a minori ad maius). In other words the logic is as follows -- If the prophets are called gods, how much more I [the prophet par excellence, Deut. 18:15) am justified in...
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    Precisely. If the Jews were accusing Jesus of...

    Precisely.

    If the Jews were accusing Jesus of making himself the Almighty,
    he could not have quoted a verse where human beings are called "gods." In other words, if the Jews were accusing...
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    Don't see how that helps you ? It would then be...

    Don't see how that helps you ? It would then be that when scripture says to someone "you're a god" it just means that they are as a god.





    According to Jesus's interpretation, the "gods" of...
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    Well, all prophets die and then go to heaven. The...

    Well, all prophets die and then go to heaven. The prophets Moses and Elijah appeared to Jesus , did they not ?
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    You will be “in place of” God..In other words you...

    You will be “in place of” God..In other words you will represent God. Regardless, this issue is irrelevant to the point that at Exodus 7:1 Moses is said to be a god, not like / as a god. The term...
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    You have completely mis-understood and corrupted ...

    You have completely mis-understood and corrupted the psalm. Here is the Greek:





    Why would God stand in the midst of false Judges ? This picture here is of a Sovereign surrounded by His...
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    That (red) is not true. Here's the Septuagint...

    That (red) is not true. Here's the Septuagint LXX:



    Literally "Behold, I have made you a god to Pharaoh. " Had the text used the adjective ὡς ("as") then you would be right: "....ὡς θεὸν...
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    "Divine" is an adjective, you would have expected...

    "Divine" is an adjective, you would have expected θεῖος at John 1:1c if that were the case.

    A caveat: if by "divine" you have an indefinite sense in mind (as in "a divine thing/person") then...
  9. It is not wise to do that (red above). The...

    It is not wise to do that (red above). The definite article does not function in exactly the same way as the pronoun in Koine.
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    7Ἰδού, ἔρχεται μετὰ τῶν νεφελῶν καὶ ὄψεται αὐτὸν...

    7Ἰδού, ἔρχεται μετὰ τῶν νεφελῶν καὶ ὄψεται αὐτὸν πᾶς ὀφθαλμὸς καὶ οἵτινες αὐτὸν ἐξεκέντησαν καὶ κόψονται ἐπ' αὐτὸν πᾶσαι αἱ φυλαὶ τῆς γῆς ναί ἀμήν (Jesus)

    8Ἐγώ εἰμι τὸ Α καὶ τὸ Ω ἀρχὴ καὶ τέλος,...
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    (1) The point is that even in Heaven Jesus is...

    (1) The point is that even in Heaven Jesus is given revelation from God, which means that even there he is not omniscient, which IMHO is pretty strong evidence that the apostle did not consider him...
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    I notice that most Trinitarian commentaries...

    I notice that most Trinitarian commentaries either skip this clause or else say something as follows:

    Benson Commentary:




    What exactly does that mean ? He was already in heaven . Even ...
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    That is a straight-out contradiction of what the...

    That is a straight-out contradiction of what the apostle wrote: ἣν ἔδωκεν αὐτῷ ὁ Θεός, "which [Revelation] God gave to him ."

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    Ἀποκάλυψις Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ, (A Revelation of Jesus Christ,), ...
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    Ἀποκάλυψις means "a Revelation" ἔδωκεν means...

    Ἀποκάλυψις means "a Revelation"

    ἔδωκεν means "He (God) gave"

    δεῖξαι means "to show"

    When someone is given a Revelation it means that they have received information which they formerly did...
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    Let's dissect the very first verse: (1)...

    Let's dissect the very first verse:




    (1) Here God (ὁ Θεός) is distinguished from Jesus . Now if the author was a Trinitarian and believed Jesus to also be ὁ Θεός , he would (at the very...
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    Greek readings of the bible,

    Let's present and discuss our Greek readings. I would like to start with the Book of Revelation. Here's Chapter 1 of a reading I made yesterday.
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    But you cannot point to a single verse where...

    But you cannot point to a single verse where Jesus is called “God.”
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    Where in John 1 does it say Jesus is god (with a...

    Where in John 1 does it say Jesus is god (with a small "g") let alone God !?
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    He is right. Here's the Greek: But since...

    He is right. Here's the Greek:



    But since this verse does not exist in a vacuum and builds up on the question to which Jesus was responding , namely as to why the man was born blind ("who...
  20. What precisely do you mean by that they are...

    What precisely do you mean by that they are “rational souls” and where does scripture say that is the case ? And how is this relevant to the definition of (human) death ?
  21. Let's look at the verses one at a time. Start...

    Let's look at the verses one at a time. Start with 1 Samuel 28:11 :

    Saul here has a human form, he is an old man wearing a robe. Are you saying that disembodied human spirits have bodies and...
  22. God’s intention was for Adam and Eve ( and by...

    God’s intention was for Adam and Eve ( and by extension the whole of humanity) to live forever as bodily creatures. Only when Adam sin did his body began to see corruption. Had Adam never sinned he...
  23. Genesis 2:7 does not say that though, that man...

    Genesis 2:7 does not say that though, that man became a living being because of “the spirit within us.” It says rather that the man became a living being as a result of God blowing “the breath of...
  24. I meant where are you getting that from the bible...

    I meant where are you getting that from the bible itself ?
  25. That's a strawman caricature. Man with the breath...

    That's a strawman caricature. Man with the breath of God is more than that, he is a living being (i.e. a being living -- that is, a being capable of emotions, of intelligence, of physical...
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