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Excellent responses, Stefcui! Thanks for the feedback.

Prof. Bart Ehrman refers to the pre-Nicene Christian churches as "proto-orthodox". That says to me that several generations of converts from Orthodox Judaism:


1: brought their theological...

That is correct.

Yup, pretty much.

But if you understand that I've been busy with other things that mitigate my time creating and responding to postings here and elsewhere (like the 3 doctors appointments I had...

A more dynamic way to read that is verse is:IOW, the populations of angels, of the world, and of Catholic purgatory and hell should─or, like it or not, will be made to─render obeisance to Jesus who...

Come'on, people. Lighten up! Nobody is on my "Ignore" list. I'm busy working on several other research projects for posting elsewhere, as well as lawn and gardening chores, tending to our aviary,...

Hmm. Responses to my research seem to be continually going off-topic and personal. So, in the interests of informed argument, here's what I'm willing to do in the future whenever I start a thread...

Yup! I know what a non-sequitur is. I don't know who BookerG is. But if s/he speaks from an Orthodox Christian perspective regarding things biblical, I doubt s/he has anything useful to say to the...

Granted. However, it should become logically valid when one compares for themselves the text of the TR with, for example, Vaticanus and Sinaiticus.

Getting back now to your claim that the TNIV and...

:smile: Thanks for the info. My English translation lists are always not all-inclusive since I don't have personal access to a copy of every English Bible version ever published. Nonetheless, a...

SCRIPTURE READING


"Only God is good" (MT 19:17 NLT)
"No one is good except God alone" (LK 18:19 NET)


PATRISTIC ALLUSIONS

See note at KJV reading in "English Translations," below.

Or maybe:

On second thought, I respectfully decline because, from what I've been reading here, each of you is capable of performing your own research. Whether or not you wish to pay for an opportunity to do...

OK. I'll look and get whatever I find up soon.

Correct, he did not. His premise is that Paul believed Jesus to have been an angel before his purported parthenogenic birth in first century CE Israel.

I can't tell from your responses if you have...

Thanks for the feedback, biribiri. Yes, so it appears.

But when I look at various Greek dictionaries and lexica, I see that (depending on context) ως can be alternately rendered to read like...

I'm familiar with what Prof. Ehrman affirms and follows. I've been reading his postings related to his upcoming book, How Jesus Became God. In an apparent sidebar after sharing his thoughts on Paul's...

In my experience many people, whenever they feel they can't refute what someone has said, will attack their opponent personally rather than what the person said. It's easy to do, and difficult to...

Isn't warning a synonym for or a type of "threat"?

You wrote:I suspect you'll close your eyes and refuse to look at what I'm about to say. But, if you are looking here, then look again at the OP and you should see that's precisely what I did when I...

I started the OP with the majuscule lettering seen in the targeted clause within extant P46 at the location Bible readers identify as Gal. 4:14, and with the miniscule lettering one can read in the...

Old Testament Curses and Threats
Attributed to Jesus
“God of Love”

If Jesus = God = Holy Spirit, then why is he (according to Deut. 28:15-67 in the Good News Bible) so cruel?

15 "… if you...

In my last post, I wrote:
That sentence is amended to read:

Accepted -- humbly :smile:

In P46 itself, nothing. It can be seen in the targeted and edited phrase itself when Bible readers carefully evalute the content and its evolution.

That's a separate...

You can interact now, RonC. I'm also striving to be more tolerant of the beliefs of others, so I've removed you from my Ignore List :lol:

Thanks, John. Since my OP focused on the Greek wording of Gal. 4:14, I thought (perhaps incorrectly) that my follow-up post is related to the OP and appropriate here.

And unlike back in 2008, I'm...

Toward continued dialogue, and despite the apparently pro-Orthodox content seen in the ante-Nicene text of P46 (that reads, in part, ΩΣΑΓΓΕΛΟΝΘΕΟΥ...ΩΣΧ...), patristic commentaries (if any), and the...

Ha! Gotcha! :lol:

Greek Texts:



Patristic allusions: none found at ECW.

English Versions:


I read a blog yesterday (by a well-credentialed, well-published, and widely read scholar) in which it's claimed...

Now there's a "Christian" response for you :ahem:

7th heaven was okay in it's meth-head Methodist sort of way, but better than Touched By An Angel :lol:

Highway to Heaven beat them both!

No PM is necessary because the info was legible. It did, however, make my getting-progressively-older brain whirl because there appeared, to me, to be too much quoted info splattered onto my screen....

Hi, John,

Yeah, I changed it sometime within the last two weeks. I also updated my Profile and added a Jerry Falwell quote to my signature. These now appear to better reflect what I did, am, and...

Although the verse John 20:7 in extant P66 (ca. 175-225 CE) is incomplete (lacunae), Codex Vaticanus and later of the "great Catholic" mss read:GNT's (TR, W&H and punctuated NA27) read:In those...

Perhaps this shows why that percentage is steeply declining?


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Ante-Nicene commentary:

Clement of Alexandria: "Which things we speak ... in the words ... which the Holy Ghost teacheth" (Stromata Book I 196)
Hippolytus: "... words taught ... of the Spirit"...

Creation theory is Jewish legend. Evolution is a fact.

Creation theory will always be based on legend. Evolution is a fact that will, one day, become legendary.

There are several ways to interpret the Greek word that is translated to read "works". The performance of supernatural miracles, either real or imagined, is not one of those ways. The use of the...

Teleportation might be a possible explanation by the Ancient Aiens folks on the History Channel. Nonetheless, Acts 8:38-40 only tells Bible readers that Philip was "caught away" without explaining...

***EDITED***The Greek noun ἱλασμός (hilasmos) refers to atonement as offered via an atoning sacrifice by an expiator as a means of forgiving sins. The English words expiation (corrected for...

Systematic theology since, by using the Christian Bible, "God" would be using revealed knowledge according to Orthodox Judeo-Christian "Systematic Theology" to trump whatever alternative knowledge...

The Greek noun ἱλασμός (hilasmos) refers to atonement as offered via an atoning sacrifice by an expiator as a means of forgiving sins. The English words expitiation and propitiation are simply...

According to the English language translaton of the scripture verse we know as Acts 13:2, men identified in the preceding verse were worshiping their supreme master when something said to be the Holy...

Any disagreement you might have, either real or imagined, with the cited information should be addressed to the author or publishers. As for your personal judgments of me . . . . . well, I'll just...

With few exceptions (listed below), Jesus' name in English is translated everywhere in the KJV from the Greek Ἰησους. That name is a translation (not transliteration) of the Hebrew name יהושׁוּע...

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There are at least two reasons for the being omitted ahead of "fellowship." 1) in English, the definite article is "sometimes to be supplied, at others omitted" (Strong's @ G3588); and, 2) it was a...

The Greek text in P45 (ca. 225-275 CE) reads:[/SIZE]In this phrase, and because the personal name of "God" (יהוה or YHVH) does not appear in extant Greek mss, ΚΥΡΙΕ was and is still substituted as a...

That's correct, especially if one only wants to be able to post Koine Greek words in forums like the one we're using now. If so, it should make little difference to the reader if one writes οὕτω...

Words printed in the Bible do not alone "evidence" make.

Your claim appears to be based upon "evidence" that is circular at best.

In Trinitarian minds, yes; in non-Trinitarian thinking, no. P72 and codices 01, 02, and 03 contain the contracted form of ΚΥΡΙΟΥ (κυ̅; GNT = κυρίου). That word, in the minds of ante-Nicene...