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  1. Re: The PC Gospel, the Heart of the Apostasy

    BibleWheel,
    As much as the alerts are appreciated, you might consider lighting up on the generalizations. Just because a handful of apostates put up some nasty stuff doesn't mean the rest of the...
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    Re: Absolute Apostasy in the Episcopal Church!

    that's terrible, and I have been attending an episcopal church lately. but, there is a conservative movement along with the liberal one, if only they'd stop leaving and forming their own denominations
  3. Re: No Longer a Christian: a rant, by Karen Horst Cobb

    considering all of this, that she is unbalanced and doesn't know YOUR particular group of friends or doesn't listen to YOUR Christian radio station, perhaps before we write her off for not examining...
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    catholic question

    hey, I just had a question I was hoping a catholic could help me understand. I was just wondering if someone could explain if there is or is not tension within the Church concerning the "cannon of...
  5. Re: Featured Article: Why Should Anyone Believe Anything at all?

    "Kant's philosophy is bad philosophy, yet it has convinced many people that there is an unbridgeable gulf between them and the real world; that there's no way you can get any reliable knowledge about...
  6. ok, I'm not sure that accounts for the force...

    ok, I'm not sure that accounts for the force behind some of the other passages in scripture which refer to baptism alone without a reviving of the concept of the sacrement as a "seal." But maybe you...
  7. hey buddy, I was just crusing through the site...

    hey buddy, I was just crusing through the site and thought I'd say nice work on this one. I've been chewing on bits and pieces from the pseudopigripha (sp?) debate for awhile, wondering how it...
  8. I think there are some things he might be...

    I think there are some things he might be concerned with, but I don't think the two main branches have strayed too far from the book of concord or the scriptures. I wonder how he would view the Joint...
  9. ahh... you should all just become lutherans,...

    ahh... you should all just become lutherans, we're the nicer branch of the reformation ;-). j/k. sorry.
  10. Re: Gibson's 'Passion' Is Bloody Empty . . .Simply 2 Hours Of Brutality, Gore

    I am so, so tired of people bashing on this movie, especially from the Christian camp. "It doesn't tell me anything..." well that would be a good point if that was the intent of the movie. It's an...
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    Re: Beyond Kant and Hegel

    Nice. That was interesting. It is worth some further reading.
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    Re: Faith or Facts by Greg Koukl

    I really enjoyed TGB's post, that was good. I suppose I will react here differently than I have before when the subject has come up. I'll cover three issues: the Biblical perspective, the perspective...
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    Re: Hmmm...

    Sorry, I know this wasn't addressed to me, and I hope I don't steal anyones wind, infact I'm sure jezz will answer quite differently than I do, but I wanted to make an attempt.



    No, you've just...
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    though the attempt by a subjective person to...

    though the attempt by a subjective person to stand between the objective and the subjective is admirable, I'm not convinced it can be achieved with any certainty. but perhaps it can in the way which...
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    Re: Really...?

    There'd be no possible way to make speculations as to why, because it is outside our realm of experience and observation, which is the same reason cause and effect cannot be absolutely applied....
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    Re: Whew...!

    Though I understand your points, that's not really what I'm saying. First, I'm not saying they are NECESSARILY different, just that they 1) could be and 2) I'd never be able to know for certain that...
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    thanks everyone, it's all worked out and erin is...

    thanks everyone, it's all worked out and erin is back. God is good.

    ~Scott
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    Re: How about this ?

    I would say that my senses may be communicating to me reactions which may have been caused by an outside source which could possibly be experienced by others in in exactly the same fashion. However,...
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    this is an interesting discussion, but it seems...

    this is an interesting discussion, but it seems all points that I would make have already been covered. given, the objective statement that nothing is objective is a contradiction if stated so...
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    if you guys could keep praying, especially today....

    if you guys could keep praying, especially today. we're up here at school, waiting. God is working though I believe, the school has agreed to let her come back if her mom enrolls in a certain payment...
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    prayer for financial help

    hi. if you guys could be in prayer for my fiancee and I, we are trying to make it so that she is able to come back for spring semester this year. her fafsa got screwed up and some of her loans didn't...
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    Re: Salvation after Death: Orthodox?

    Right now I don't have enough time to read through the rest of the posts on here, but I wanted to comment really quickly. First, it's hard to pin down "evangelical orthodoxy." However, most...
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    And so the atheist claims that he has no first...

    And so the atheist claims that he has no first hand experience of belief that he would consider reasonable, so you are both starting from the same point, trapped within each own's personal...
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    Re: The Argument From Nonbelief

    However, you are here using as proof of existence what the atheist uses as proof of non-existence; "it is apparent to me... I do not feel" You pointed to this of course when you stated that one...
  25. In defense of Koukl's stance, I think a lot of...

    In defense of Koukl's stance, I think a lot of people involved in this discussion fall subject to the naturalistic fallacy. It is, thus it should be... what utter non-sense. It's been my experience...
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    alright, sounds good

    alright, sounds good
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    Good point, perhaps I bit more off then I could...

    Good point, perhaps I bit more off then I could chew. But, all postmodern thought seems to begin first with the deconstructional approach and then move on, which I suppose that could be the part of...
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    Here you're being equivocal again. You're...

    Here you're being equivocal again. You're equating spiritual progress in the knowledge of God with institutional instruction about a the culture surrounding a certian point in time at which God...
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    How do you mean? Within the historical...

    How do you mean?



    Within the historical field it can be examined, but should this examination have effect on faith?



    I'm not sure that I'm taking it any farther than Christianity is able...
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    I enjoyed the snipit of article you posted, when...

    I enjoyed the snipit of article you posted, when I have time next week I'll check out the full one.



    So God is more accessable to the well educated? This certainly comes from a modern bias.

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    I'm kind of upset, I wrote a nice, consise...

    I'm kind of upset, I wrote a nice, consise responce last night, and then my computer crashed. I'll try again though.



    The problem is that because of this, we do not have the testimony of the...
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    Well, not exactly the same thing JP. You and I...

    Well, not exactly the same thing JP. You and I are discussing historic Christianity and faith, where as here I want to talk about Christianity within a postmodern context.
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    Sorry to give such a short reply to a good post....

    Sorry to give such a short reply to a good post.



    Though I understand where your going, I'm really coming from a much wider standpoint. Given, according to analytical philosophy, no matter how...
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    I couldn't resist a quick responce It is...

    I couldn't resist a quick responce



    It is convienent, but it also consistent. All 500 are a part of the reality which you correspond with, thus, you cannot be sure they exist in the same way...
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    I know, I just feel as if I have to answer...

    I know, I just feel as if I have to answer otherwise it'll look like I'm stuck.
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    As it turns out, this will only be a short post...

    As it turns out, this will only be a short post until I have time to devote to further study. Rather than developing a paper, I'll put out a few quotes which I believe to fit the context of our...
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    The law of non-contradiction wouldn't apply if...

    The law of non-contradiction wouldn't apply if you are dealing with seperate realities. What we know of God here is what He has chosen to reveal of Himself, but we know from Church tradition that God...
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    Sticky: Poll: amill up in the hizzy

    amill up in the hizzy
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    Today @ 03:34 PM post located here...

    [QUOTE]Today @ 03:34 PM post located here
    jpholding:



    Here I'm referring to the mindset which people used to interpret reality, I'm not making a statement about that mindset's validity.


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    Yes and no. My faith is based on something other...

    Yes and no. My faith is based on something other than historical evidence; however, I engage in evidential debates because I think it is entertaining for one, and for two being solipsistic doesn't...
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    I don't think they would have been thinking in...

    I don't think they would have been thinking in these sorts of terms. This way of thinking has developed in reaction to modern philosophy and theology, and the NT was obviously formed in a pre-modern...
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    what kind of response is this? anyway, even if...

    what kind of response is this? anyway, even if the geneologies were blatantly incorrect this still would not prove the rest of the Bible as "bunk" as you say.
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    God hadn't given any other law at that point...

    God hadn't given any other law at that point other than don't eat the fruit. It never explicitly says they believed it was sinful to be naked.
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    this is starting to become more enjoyable, thank...

    this is starting to become more enjoyable, thank you.



    But I argue from evidence after having made the conscious decision, which everything pivots around for me.



    I know I have been using...
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    I'm living consistently by subjectively trusting...

    I'm living consistently by subjectively trusting what I see.




    Not if I made a conscious choice not too.



    You're putting the creator on the same level as the creation, man is incapable...
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    but how could it be evil if God created them that...

    but how could it be evil if God created them that way? I still think it was a matter of shame, the fig leaves were a form of hiding (metaphorically).
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    the geneologies of ancient times were not meant...

    the geneologies of ancient times were not meant to work in the same way geneolgies of today do, they were meant to trace history from point a to point b, to establish a family line, and so a strict...
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    You're right man, I have been acting like a jerk....

    You're right man, I have been acting like a jerk. I'm sorry about that. Sorry JP.
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    Yet another post filled mainly with insult and...

    Yet another post filled mainly with insult and very little meat.



    You are trying to force your perception of how someone in my position ought to live onto me and calling me a hypocrite for not...
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    most of this post again was useless. how can I...

    most of this post again was useless. how can I answer you if you don't give me an actual question to answer?


    Even if I did not, the way I live does not affect the truth. It remains true either...
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