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  1. The only “catch” is that there is no good reason...

    The only “catch” is that there is no good reason to believe in such escapist nonsense.
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    The indices regarding The World Happiness Report...

    The indices regarding The World Happiness Report and The Human Development Index are designed to minimize such discrepancies.



    And in YOUR world also. The evolving social values of the day...
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    My question was that IF the behavioral mores of...

    My question was that IF the behavioral mores of one isolated individual are opposite to the behavioral mores of another isolated individual elsewhere, which of the two sets of contrasting behavior...
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    You are entitled to your personal position on any...

    You are entitled to your personal position on any of these issues, just as others are entitled to an opposing position. Does that render the latter “immoral”?
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    What makes a "Jihadist or Communist happy" is...

    What makes a "Jihadist or Communist happy" is irrelevant in this context.

    The Human Develop Index is a statistical composite index of life expectancy, education, and per capita income...
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    There is moral “CHANGE” which is undeniable. You...

    There is moral “CHANGE” which is undeniable. You may not think it “moral progress” to top the World Happiness Report and Human Development Index, rather than being beset by violence and inequity,...
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    There is no reason to refer to individual...

    There is no reason to refer to individual behavior as exercising “moral principles” if you are living isolated and alone. In such a circumstance you can do what you instinctively want to do without...
  8. An omni god is by definition utterly...

    An omni god is by definition utterly self-sufficient in every respect including the need or “desire” for anything outside of itself. Such a quality implies a lack of completeness.
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    I think that “morality” is only meaningful in a...

    I think that “morality” is only meaningful in a social context in that it can codify rules of behavior to enable a social species like us to function as a community.



    Yes. Exclusively I...
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    Positive according to the countries with...

    Positive according to the countries with equitable 'human rights' that have topped the World Happiness Report and Human Development Index. Or would you prefer no ‘human rights’ in a dictatorship. ...
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    I don’t think so. An individual on an island...

    I don’t think so. An individual on an island would develop a life-style that suits his needs, not a moral system per se. Whereas individuals living in community need to temper their individual...
  12. A deity with the “omni” attributes actually...

    A deity with the “omni” attributes actually "needs" nothing or wants anything at all, including you.
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    Neither are gods. Nevertheless, the concept...

    Neither are gods.

    Nevertheless, the concept of “equal rights” has developed, whether you like it or not. They have been successfully implemented by many Western cultures with overall positive...
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    We find equality in the evolved values of a given...

    We find equality in the evolved values of a given society. The US Civil Rights Act is an example just as is the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. They are not universal laws as such. ...
  15. Thread: Original sin

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    It was NOT "science" as we know it today. The...

    It was NOT "science" as we know it today. The “epicycles and such” and their mathematical base were grounded in the seemingly self-evident truth of a geocentric universe. But scientific methodology...
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    'Equal rights' reflect the values of a given...

    'Equal rights' reflect the values of a given society and are given the force of law.



    No, they were Christians doing what Christians historically do.
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    There is no reason why people that don't believe...

    There is no reason why people that don't believe what you believe should accept laws that derive from your unsubstantiated belief. Especially as most people in the world don't...and even those that...
  18. Thread: Original sin

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    Oh. What “complex mathematics” did Aristotle use...

    Oh. What “complex mathematics” did Aristotle use to arrive at his conclusion of a geocentric universe in which the fixed, spherical Earth is at the center, surrounded by concentric celestial spheres...
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    Of course, just like humans can behave. Chimps...

    Of course, just like humans can behave. Chimps and humans are closely related after all. Your point?



    "And", the reality is our need as a social species to live in community whatever form...
  20. Thread: Original sin

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    Science.com consists of legitimate science for...

    Science.com consists of legitimate science for the layman and uses credible scientific sourcing. It also respects the consensus of experts in a given scientific field and strives to publish peer...
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    Chimps nevertheless maintain community living for...

    Chimps nevertheless maintain community living for the same reason we do, namely because we are social animals that need to live in community to survive. It’s instinctive.



    History has been...
  22. You appear to have completely missed the point. ...

    You appear to have completely missed the point. My argument is the natural philosophy of Aristotle, which constituted the “the settled science of the day” (as per Adrift's comment), vis-a-vis the...
  23. What I said is the case. “Francis Bacon...

    What I said is the case. “Francis Bacon discovered and popularized the scientific method, whereby the laws of science are discovered by gathering and analyzing data from experiments and...
  24. Thread: Original sin

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    For the theist it comes down to “wishful thinking...

    For the theist it comes down to “wishful thinking and magic”, it’s all they’ve got.



    Not at all.

    “Our universe could be just one of an infinite number of universes making up a...
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    The point is, obviously, that ALL ideologies...

    The point is, obviously, that ALL ideologies taken to extreme can be murderous, whether secular or religious.



    Again, because we have evolved as social animals that need to live in community...
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