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    This thread demonstrates why we have trials...

    This thread demonstrates why we have trials...
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    Rollins PETITIONED the court. That's an EXPLICIT...

    Rollins PETITIONED the court. That's an EXPLICIT acknowledgement that the court has the right to decide. There's no reason for the petition otherwise.
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    Yep - or forgot by the time his hung over self...

    Yep - or forgot by the time his hung over self got to Case Three...
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    Yuppers - charges came from the DA's office.

    Yuppers - charges came from the DA's office.
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    Or the minions were so busy on a holiday weekend...

    Or the minions were so busy on a holiday weekend that they stopped caring... 36 defendants? SOMEONE got called in early!
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    This was a thread well before that - a year or...

    This was a thread well before that - a year or more, maybe? I think they were related but the thread came first.
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    Sorry, I forgot Monday was Labor Day. The...

    Sorry, I forgot Monday was Labor Day.

    The petition came AT the arraignment on Tuesday. Charges were already filed but arraignment wasn't yet done.
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    Rollins stated these defendants weren't supposed...

    Rollins stated these defendants weren't supposed to be arraigned - but had been. Charges came from her office.
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    Taking the power to decide on dismissal from the...

    Taking the power to decide on dismissal from the courts takes the power to stop unjust prosecution from the courts. So, answer the question.
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    Why do you hate defendants?

    Why do you hate defendants?
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    No, but he was around... :whack: Don't...

    No, but he was around...

    :whack:

    Don't confuse me - I'm still trying to remember.
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    He's just dodging, but his point is correct. It...

    He's just dodging, but his point is correct. It makes no difference - the judge should not have an opinion on guilt or innocence.

    BUT the judge SHOULD have an opinion on the sufficiency of the...
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    The DA began prosecution and cannot discontinue...

    The DA began prosecution and cannot discontinue without the court's consent.
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    Er, this was a suggestion from years ago - I...

    Er, this was a suggestion from years ago - I can't remember who suggested it but the idea was to reduce the anonymity and the aggression. I know RTT was a signatory and I think Mossy was. Pretty...
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    The DA's desire to legislate is not grounds for...

    The DA's desire to legislate is not grounds for dismissal. This defendant should not have been charged because ____. "I'm unwilling" isn't a valid answer.

    I'm not chasing your rabbits for you. She...
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    Nice try - but the real basis is 'we don't wanna...

    Nice try - but the real basis is 'we don't wanna enforce these laws' which is NOT grounds for dismissal.

    Why do you hate defendants?
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    Not all states have recall elections - nor are...

    Not all states have recall elections - nor are they triggered automatically.


    The real answer is that in such an egregious case, she gets charged with misconduct, removed from office, possibly...
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    According to Seer's article, the DA's office made...

    According to Seer's article, the DA's office made a mistake and charged everyone, including those charged with crimes the DA doesn't want prosecuted.

    Haven't seen much else but it looks like she...
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    No, it can't.Once prosecution has begun, the...

    No, it can't.Once prosecution has begun, the state needs the court's consent to discontinues proceedings - and it must provide grounds to do so.
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    It is the court's right to decide if it will or...

    It is the court's right to decide if it will or will not grant relief. The DA PETITIONED the court. The court has every right to decline.
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    Prosecutors DO NOT have discretion over which...

    Prosecutors DO NOT have discretion over which laws to enforce.
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    Do not need it - ROLLINS PETITIONED THE COURT....

    Do not need it - ROLLINS PETITIONED THE COURT. That's an EXPLICIT acknowledgement that the decision to dismiss belongs to the court.

    Why do you hate defendants?
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    He got it from Rollins. She seems to think the...

    He got it from Rollins. She seems to think the decision to prosecute is hers to retract and the court - which she petitioned - has no say.

    It's insane - if upheld, the court could not dismiss when...
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    Sam, Rollins asked the court for a dismissal - if...

    Sam, Rollins asked the court for a dismissal - if the DA has the need to ask, prosecution is already underway. If the DA has the right to ask, the court has the right to decline.

    The court has...
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    The DA's - he requested to drop charges - meaning...

    The DA's - he requested to drop charges - meaning they were already charged.

    Edit: double checked the article - at the very bottom, Rollins herself says these guys were already arraigned. The...
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