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    Carp, I'm not sure what exactly you disagree with...

    Carp, I'm not sure what exactly you disagree with here:


    By analogy, if someone says that values have no objective existence, moral philosophy is undermined since it has no subject matter. It is...
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    Right, I don't know much about Black's legal...

    Right, I don't know much about Black's legal reasoning, but I just can't think of a liberal justice who is an originalist. It wouldn't be impossible though.
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    Right and the Justice Dept should look into it...

    Right and the Justice Dept should look into it...
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    That doesn't make sense, you are just using the...

    That doesn't make sense, you are just using the fallacy an appeal to the majority. That because the majority believes A makes them happy, then A is good. And the fact that A does not make everyone...
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    Yes Carp, your parents created you via the laws...

    Yes Carp, your parents created you via the laws of nature, those are the driving force for biology. Bacteria don't intend that they survive.



    My point to Tass what that the laws of nature to...
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    Jim, it was a Christian culture, where do you...

    Jim, it was a Christian culture, where do you think the Founders got many of their ideals? Look to Christian writers like Locke and Blackstone.



    Jim read Locke's Second Treatise of Civil...
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    This seems to follow: If your 'meta-theory'...

    This seems to follow:

    If your 'meta-theory' consists in the denial of the existence of any subject matter for your theory, how can you continue to have a theory? Suppose that it were claimed that...
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    Funny, it seems that man has an innate sense of...

    Funny, it seems that man has an innate sense of worship and need for forgiveness...
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    The concept of equal rights, the principles in...

    The concept of equal rights, the principles in the Declaration and Constitution, were formed in a decidedly Christian culture. Heavily influenced by Christian thinkers like John Locke, William...
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    So I guess this is becoming a thing - a new...

    So I guess this is becoming a thing - a new religion...
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    Very good!

    Very good!
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    Jim what I find interesting is that honesty is a...

    Jim what I find interesting is that honesty is a necessary condition for any kind of legitimate moralizing. I'm sure Carp would agree, but that would mean that an objective moral standard (honesty)...
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    This is important stuff!

    This is important stuff!
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    Wait! We are confessing because of this climate...

    Wait! We are confessing because of this climate change thing. But don't plants grow better with more Co2 and warmer climates?
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    So we confess to him? But he is dead. This is...

    So we confess to him? But he is dead. This is getting confusing!
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    Yes they are focusing on the Military contracts.

    Yes they are focusing on the Military contracts.
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    Colt suspends production of AR-15 for civilian...

    Colt suspends production of AR-15 for civilian market

    https://apnews.com/fbdf5e5f6d654332bbedfaffe3663154

    Not that matters, everybody and their brother are making them now...
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    So they have their own vegetable god and...

    So they have their own vegetable god and communion sacrament. At a so called Christian College!
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    I'm confessing to a head of lettuce then...

    I'm confessing to a head of lettuce then...
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    Exactly!!!!

    Exactly!!!!
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    Do we still get to eat them after we confess?

    Do we still get to eat them after we confess?
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    It certainly is not Christian, but in any case it...

    It certainly is not Christian, but in any case it is just nuts. Do the plants give absolution?
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    Confess Your Sins: To PLANTS!

    This is not the Bee!
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    Unless you intend suicide. But I was speaking of...

    Unless you intend suicide. But I was speaking of the laws of nature that created us - they care nothing for our survival nor do they intend that we do survive.
  25. You are going to be OK Wall, just keep doing the...

    You are going to be OK Wall, just keep doing the right thing. Have you by any chance read Jordan Peterson's 12 Rules for living?
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