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  1. Re: The plan to ban genuine Christianity in the U.S. Army

    And yet, somehow, its more than what you say it is and has been for hundreds of years.
  2. Re: The plan to ban genuine Christianity in the U.S. Army

    How do you mean? I am looking at this

    Where you made your claim. Following that, facts have been presented to you. You keep insisting that I am wrong, but you refuse to elaborate.



    So, I...
  3. Re: The plan to ban genuine Christianity in the U.S. Army

    http://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/9806/danpre.html

    To messers. Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson, a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut.
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  4. Re: The plan to ban genuine Christianity in the U.S. Army

    Oh?

    How do you square



    with

    unless you are going to appeal to
  5. Re: The plan to ban genuine Christianity in the U.S. Army

    ???

    ^There ya go
  6. Re: God created the animals, then he created the animals?

    I don't get why it was a public post in the first place. Isn't this kind of thing supposed to be PM'd to you?
  7. Re: God created the animals, then he created the animals?

    Why does your requested context not deal with the different orders present in the two chapters?
  8. Re: The plan to ban genuine Christianity in the U.S. Army

    On the surface, that seems rather reasonable, but I fear that it would just be used as a way to get the children to temporarily "pass" said exam in much the same way that a YEC might want their kid...
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    Re: The Unaligned Soul

    Who said anything about objectivity?
  10. Re: The plan to ban genuine Christianity in the U.S. Army

    Those are all great things to not teach since they look to be, well, stupid as hell.

    Still, it has no bearing on the kind of actually educational sex education that we can actually do that will...
  11. Re: Richard Dawkins - The Enemies Of Reason (Documentary)

    Well, if the boiling point of water changed to 10,000 degrees celsius, a steam engine built for the earth wouldn't work,

    So it seems that if various physical aspects change then it seems like...
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    Re: The Unaligned Soul

    What's being a doormat got to do with it?
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    Re: The Unaligned Soul

    If an idea is good, its good irrespective of whether or not it has the backing of some claimed being.

    Regarding the first bit, at most you are losing out on some poetry, and at the same time, the...
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    Re: The Unaligned Soul

    You should consider how your actions might push someone closer to the fire than they otherwise would be
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    Re: The Unaligned Soul

    You would be well, then, to take care not to set him on fire yourself
  16. Re: God created the animals, then he created the animals?

    Whats the deal with trying to use arguments against deduction as arguments against induction?
  17. Re: The Intellectual Argument for Austerity is No More

    Do you have any examples of jobs with marginal productivity that low?
  18. Re: IRS targeted conservative groups for harassment

    eh?
  19. Re: The plan to ban genuine Christianity in the U.S. Army

    Oh,

    How are they atheist theocracies?
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    Re: The Unaligned Soul

    And then the benefit is something more mundane, but still valuable. Self worth, the respect of the community, and all that still is felt by the individual following the commands without their being...
  21. Re: IRS targeted conservative groups for harassment

    Probably because there is no harm in doing so and that this is kind of a non-story if they don't freak out over the allegations
  22. Re: The plan to ban genuine Christianity in the U.S. Army

    You keep saying that, but its all your saying
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    Re: The Unaligned Soul

    It eliminates force? Nobody is exactly forced to do it now, are they? Morals are take it or leave it, but its hardly empty. Blessed be the peacemakers, closer to happy in the greek afaik, is a...
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    Re: The Unaligned Soul

    They are quite good, Norm, and you will enjoy them. I was luck enough he was on the reading list for my capstone course, along with Karen Armstrong who I found significantly less useful. Myths and...
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    Re: Does Prayer Change Behavior?

    Thinking happy thoughts is not exactly mindfulness training
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    Re: Does Prayer Change Behavior?

    Attentiveness and contemplation can change behavior, this is the core of the mindfulness training in Psychology. If prayer changes behavior it need not be supernatural, but social
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    Re: The Unaligned Soul

    You really need to actually read Cambell before criticizing his ideas. That's a meta statement about the religion, not something that the religion is teaching. 1 Corinthians 14-18 has nothing to do...
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    Re: The Unaligned Soul

    You have the astonishing ability to be able to succinctly describe what a person has said and then extrapolate that into brand new territory.
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    Re: The Unaligned Soul

    So you say, but nobody else is required to believe you.

    And yet, the teachings would remain the same whether or not a man came back to life
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    Re: The Unaligned Soul

    Quite the opposite, he didn't quote something specific about the avoidance of riposte, but a more general command to not return evil for evil and some other things about being a nice person. This is...
  31. Re: The plan to ban genuine Christianity in the U.S. Army

    It's not necessary to demonstrate the very thing your argument rests upon?
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    Re: The Unaligned Soul

    doh!
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    Re: The Unaligned Soul

    He understood that world religions are attempts to explain the unknown, to teach, and in this sense the factual basis of them is unimportant to the truths that they are trying to convey. He's a...
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    Re: The Unaligned Soul

    Plus, that person repeating himself and not accepting your evidence quite likely thinks the same of you when you resort to insults and personal attacks
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    Re: The Unaligned Soul

    Metaphors are true in that they are expressing a truth, not that the details of the story need to have happened for them to contain a truth worth knowing.

    Campell is, in effect, much inline with...
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    Re: The Unaligned Soul

    Heres what would have happened if he hadn't put the restriction in place.

    We'd have a couple people making their voice heard and then all of the people whose answer to WWJD is call someone names...
  37. Re: The Intellectual Argument for Austerity is No More

    It's not as if the money that gets put into social security is simply paid back to current people.

    The excess generally buys up government bonds, a substantial part of our national debt and the...
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    Re: The Unaligned Soul

    Lol?

    How many times are you going to conflate things today? What I end up enjoying and why I came to this forum for in the first place are radically different things. Particularly when we factor...
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    Re: The Unaligned Soul

    This is the height of arrogance, to think you can truly know a person by their discussion on such a focused topic. There is a great little part of the Origin of Species where Darwin is talking about...
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    Re: The Unaligned Soul

    Do you really not understand the difference between atheists and members of religion in terms of accepting of the authority of religion, religious leaders and in-group/out-group discussion tactics?
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    Re: The Unaligned Soul

    Ah, I see, you've somehow figured out how to completely and quickly understand a person based on a few internet posts. You should write a book about this and make your fortune.



    And yet here...
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    Re: The Unaligned Soul

    Better, but the joke doesn't have any topical relevance. Family Guy random referencing only works in the show because of the delivery, its hard to pull off in other contexts
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    Re: The Unaligned Soul

    How is asking atheists their perception on a matter that directly affects them by way of being focused on them detrimental to the faith? You've claimed this is a double standard on his part, but all...
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    Re: The Unaligned Soul

    You don't, and can't, know that for certain when talking to strangers on an internet forum. Problem with the medium.

    You also misunderstand the point of a forum like this one. If you want to go...
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    Re: The Unaligned Soul

    I wouldn't mind the insults so much if they weren't so boring.

    How can you live with yourself being so lacking in comedy? It must be really difficult for you to be the kind of person who actually...
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    Re: The Unaligned Soul

    You can assert yourselves in matters of public policy all you like and we can do the same all the while neither of us is supposed to be violating the constitution. Thats it.

    Regarding...
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    Re: The Unaligned Soul

    I can say, with very little doubt, that the people who commonly go over the top with the insults and the berating and the rest are considered by the skeptics posting on TWeb to be idiots. I can...
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    Re: Non-Christians, How Do You See It?

    Damn, I am wracking my brain trying to find a fresh angle on this. Don't want to simply reiterate... hmm...

    I suppose I'd say that the entire process confuses me. Both in that people seem to...
  49. Thread: It Was Torture.

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    Re: It Was Torture.

    There are many factors at play, the milgram experiment was only about obedience. Group think, insane working environments, and many other things contributed to the attitudes expressed at guantanamo...
  50. Thread: It Was Torture.

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    Re: It Was Torture.

    Not neccessariily sadists, but people "just doing their jobs", see the milgram experiments
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