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    Oddly accurate, but 'IFins' are meaningless....

    Oddly accurate, but 'IFins' are meaningless. Something like counting frog hairs.
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    True.

    True.
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    No, Traditional Christianity is predominantly...

    No, Traditional Christianity is predominantly those who believe in a 'Trinitarian God and that Jesus Christ is God incarnate.'

    Cheers!!!
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    Read the article more completely. It lists 'Jesus...

    Read the article more completely. It lists 'Jesus as a heretic.

    It is true that Jews do not make the accusation of heresy outside Judaism, but any Jewish converts to Christianity are considered...
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    Are you dealing in hypothetical fairy tales? Back...

    Are you dealing in hypothetical fairy tales? Back to reality Turkey. The above does not make sense. Your IFins' are nonsense.
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    Never intended to describe Judaism as monolithic....

    Never intended to describe Judaism as monolithic. In fact the Jews were a very diverse lot in many aspects. In early Christian history Jews and Christians in some ways got along, but this does not...
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    It is worse, Judaism considers Christianity as a...

    It is worse, Judaism considers Christianity as a heresy, and Jesus a heretic.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heresy_in_Judaism



    Minim

    Hilchot Teshuva Chapter 3 Halacha 7

    Five peoples who...
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    I believe I have been misunderstood. The majority...

    I believe I have been misunderstood. The majority of Jews were Palestinian Monotheistic Jews as demonstrated by the response and misunderstanding to Jesus in the testimony of the NT. The Jews that...
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    Initially the converts to Christianity were...

    Initially the converts to Christianity were dominantly Jews with a few Greeks and Romans. Over the next ~200 years conversion shifted to Asia Minor Greece and Rome conversion shifted due to Paul's...
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    We may disagree, but yes what you cite may be the...

    We may disagree, but yes what you cite may be the origins of the "Jesus cult" that resulted in the Trinitarian view. Some of what you cite I believe to be a minority view. I f what you say is correct...
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    OK This why I put a late date on the...

    OK



    This why I put a late date on the Trinitarian belief in Christianity. Up until it became the dominant Doctrine and Dogma of the Roman Church there were a variety of views among the early...
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    I believe the best word here is 'Monotheistic.'...

    I believe the best word here is 'Monotheistic.' Unitarian today refers more to the Humanist movement associated with the Unitarian Universalist Church.



    I believe the predominant belief among...
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    At God's discretion is a bit too vague, because...

    At God's discretion is a bit too vague, because of course everything in Creation is at God's discretion. The Doctrine and Dogma of the belief and teachings of the Roman Church are more specific as to...
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    I believe the latest version of the Humanist...

    I believe the latest version of the Humanist manifesto is as follows:

    Humanist Manifesto 2000


    A Call for a New Planetary Humanism
    Drafted by Professor Paul Kurtz, International Academy of...
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    I did not say what the definition of salvation...

    I did not say what the definition of salvation Christians use is what the Jews believe in, but it is actually variable among Jews as to what being saved means, but the following is consistent with...
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    I guess you taking the egocentric view that only...

    I guess you taking the egocentric view that only Christians believe in salvation :ahem:
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    The reality is most Theists (in the broad definition of the word including Buddhists) believe in...
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    I do not see a necessary conflict between...

    I do not see a necessary conflict between different religious views of the nature of human existence, because to a certain extent all these world views represent a limited human cultural view of the...
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    Yes, the Jews believe in salvation, but they do...

    Yes, the Jews believe in salvation, but they do not believe in a Trinitarian God, nor that Jesus Christ was God incarnate, neither do the Baha'is believe this as a Doctrine defining the nature God,...
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    Jews do not believe this is so.

    Jews do not believe this is so.
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    This is more in line with the Baha'i beliefs and...

    This is more in line with the Baha'i beliefs and view of NT scripture.
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    There is considerable evidence that before the...

    There is considerable evidence that before the 'Exile Period' The tribes of Judah were loosely polytheistic tribes of predominately Canaanite influence. This polytheism is reflected in the older...
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    Clarification on the view of God and the Trinity...

    Clarification on the view of God and the Trinity from the Baha'i view. The actual reality and nature of Jesus Christ is ultimately unknown and not definable by Doctrine and Dogma. The Baha'i Faith...
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    I basically understand this belief. I was raised...

    I basically understand this belief. I was raised in the Roman Church, and briefly studied to be a Priest in the Saint Francis Order.




    Yes, JW are Monotheists.



    OK, Unity Church of God,...
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    I do not consider this a rant as such, It is...

    I do not consider this a rant as such, It is simply a sort of dialogue concerning objections to the Trinity, which in a way I consider valid objections if worded a bit better. Actually this is more...
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