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January 19th 2013, 11:03 PM
Thread: The Language of Death
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Re: The Language of Death
Anethetizing death plays into the game of the afterlife. While some believe there is life and after that nothing, others call death a transition from life 1 to afterlife 2. Side stepping the Death...
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January 19th 2013, 10:59 PM
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Re: What do you think of Christian psychology?
There really isn't that much problem with sin, otherwise it wouldn't keep happening. On the other side, guilt associated with doing the wrong thing tends to cause a mental barrier and regret. ...
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January 19th 2013, 10:55 PM
Thread: Gangnum Style
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Re: Gangnum Style
It resembles very much Madonna and her antics. Given a higher pitch and less clothes I'd say it was a Madonna video. Bad dancing et al.
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January 19th 2013, 10:47 PM
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Re: How atheists dodge and quibble on experience and reason.
On your question. I once saw a young lady sawed in half by a "magician". He duly parted her in half, her feet wiggled, she laughed, then he stuck the two halves back together and "ta da" she was...
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January 19th 2013, 10:41 PM
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Re: What do agnostics and atheists do for meaning?
You have a life...One. It lasts from birth till death. You can choose to squander it in drug addiction, you can choose to squander it in destruction or you can create to the best of your ability...
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April 16th 2012, 12:18 PM
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Re: Critics of Richard Dawkins and 'The God Delusion'
Dawkins is disciplined. Much higher than most other humans. He is able to logically control his desires and feelings that are contrary to social pressure. Most humans don't have that ability. ...
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April 16th 2012, 12:05 PM
Thread: Is Atheism Logical?
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Re: Is Atheism Logical?
I see the rational position as one of qualities. First off, who gets to define what a God is? A bunch of middle eastern goat herders two millinium past? The qualities they attribute to being...
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April 16th 2012, 11:55 AM
Thread: Atheism and rationality
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Re: Atheism and rationality
Sounds nebulous. The existence of a God lies in the definition you place on the term. The "totality of existence" is one that might be used, however, you can not then attribute qualities...
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September 17th 2011, 03:40 PM
Thread: Plantinga's Dangerous Idea
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Re: Plantinga's Dangerous Idea
I'm not sure about your opening point assertion that true beliefs are more adapted than false ones.
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October 31st 2005, 07:21 AM
Thread: Pick an Agnostic's Brain
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Re: Pick an Agnostic's Brain
The reality is that theists don't believe on fact, they believe on faith. The agnostic position says, there are no facts so I refrain from commitment. In other words, I will not accept faith as a...
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October 5th 2005, 09:36 PM
Thread: Are cynics happy?
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Re: Are cynics happy?
The idea of philosophy is to present a position of non-contradiction. Sometimes philosophers point out inconsistencies in other positions and this may appear to be cynical but it is actually seeking...
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September 29th 2005, 10:51 PM
Thread: On the argument from suffering
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Re: On the argument from suffering
The default answer that somehow there exists some viable reason for this entity to allow evil to occur infact debases the original premise that it is infact omnibenevolent. There is no viable reason...
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September 11th 2005, 07:20 PM
Thread: Where is religion going?
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Re: Where is religion going?
I think religion provides for a human need for companionship and community. (To believe in truth isn't too hard but it takes commitment to believe in the obviously false) Although the current...
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September 11th 2005, 07:06 PM
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Re: My objections to an objective morality
Interesting points. I do believe it is possible to logically say certain things are either true or false in a specific circumstance, because that is opinion of an individual they are not objective. ...
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September 1st 2005, 08:21 AM
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Re: I love how the Old Testament makes moral relativists out of Christians.
Your obvious lack of knowledge of the early development of christian theology is noted as well.
"Around 350 A.D., for his churches in Jerusalem, Bishop Cyril composed a set of lectures with the... -
August 30th 2005, 09:02 AM
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Re: Can We Know Whether Or Not God Exists?
You might wish to define "scientific theory" which is different than "theory" in general. The need for experimental testing and willingness to subject the theory to testing is pivotal to it being...
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August 30th 2005, 08:51 AM
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Re: I love how the Old Testament makes moral relativists out of Christians.
The old testament is an embarrassment for most serious theologians. The origins of including the Jewish Torah in the Bible came from Constintine. After assembling the large group of Christians...
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August 25th 2005, 10:46 PM
Thread: My Deconversion Story
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Re: My Deconversion Story
You know, I have reviewed some of your posts and find most of them to be insightful. This one doesn't quite live up to your normal standards.
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August 25th 2005, 08:58 PM
Thread: My Deconversion Story
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Re: My Deconversion Story
I found after much study that humans seek reassurance from other humans. You need to believe that you are important and valid, just as you are and find others that can validate what you have come to...
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August 22nd 2005, 08:57 AM
Thread: Nature of Philosophy
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Re: Nature of Philosophy
Ok let me be the first to assert that: In my opinion a world without evil would be a wonderful place to live. I would like to exist without all the problems of evil and if the theistic concept of...
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August 17th 2005, 03:23 PM
Thread: Influenced by Us
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Re: Influenced by Us
I am reminded of an idea that I cannot properly attribute: The philosophers of old were not ignorant, they were infact the great thinkers of their day. They just wanted to explain a concept that...
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August 17th 2005, 03:11 PM
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Re: Worst argument for a religion...the personal testimony.
I think that in the case of very emotional events, many people are overwhelmed by the sequence of events, good or bad. They think it extremely unlikely that for all of this to occur exactly as it did...
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August 17th 2005, 02:54 PM
Thread: Nature of Philosophy
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Re: Nature of Philosophy
That may be correct but if I hold a specific erroneous proposition, I am hoping someone will make an adequate argument that it is erroneous. I have listened to propositions of a dualistic universe...
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August 16th 2005, 07:56 PM
Thread: Nature of Philosophy
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Re: Nature of Philosophy
I find a majority of theists specifically in the area of believing in a dualism of reality are missled by this form of discontinuity as opposed to non-theists, which normally reject the idea of...
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August 15th 2005, 10:02 PM
Thread: Nature of Philosophy
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Re: Nature of Philosophy
I think humans are inclined to make all sorts of decisions in that same type of methodology. One normally attaches nationalism to one's own nation. It occationally happens contrary like when the...
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August 15th 2005, 01:20 PM
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Re: Ah, The True Evil of Evolution Revealed: Evolutionary Termites
I think that is a horrible way to view evolution. Evolution applies to social interaction too. It would say that if you decide to do such things in a previous era you would be hung, in today's...
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August 15th 2005, 09:46 AM
Thread: A question of metaphysics
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Re: A question of metaphysics
The study of consciousness as opposed to biology is where I think you are going. I will assume you accept the most basic underlying "nature" of humans in that they are carbon based, cellular,...
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August 15th 2005, 09:30 AM
Thread: Nature of Philosophy
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Re: Nature of Philosophy
It depends on what you would define as arbitrary. A theist might arrive at his position because everyone in his immediacy follows a particular religion. (that being the main determiner of religions)...
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August 14th 2005, 01:21 PM
Thread: Nature of Philosophy
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Re: Nature of Philosophy
In my opinion all propositions as well as conclusions are open to inquiry and refutation. Sometimes our acceptance of certain premise are due to a lack of information, sometimes it is due to a lack...
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August 14th 2005, 12:45 PM
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Re: Worst argument for a religion...the personal testimony.
I think it also places the asserting person in a position where if you disagree with their assertion you must now (in polite company) confront that person and explain how their impressions and...
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August 14th 2005, 09:53 AM
Thread: Nature of Philosophy
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Re: Nature of Philosophy
I think philosophy is a process while theology is a proposed set of rules that supposedly explain reality. Philosophy like science can change and come in a variety of flavors. It allows a hedonist...
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August 11th 2005, 10:00 AM
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Re: Human consciousness-proof of the spirit world
I very logically layed out the sequence which must be true if dualism is to be an acceptable explanation for reality. I also very logically laid out the contradiction that exists if that is true. I...
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August 10th 2005, 08:46 PM
Thread: Influenced by Us
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Re: Influenced by Us
I am not sure how much you understand about "complexity theory", but if you look at the origins of life and of human consciousness you will see it is a constant general increase in overall...
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August 10th 2005, 08:32 PM
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Re: My objections to an objective morality
Although your rants are not really supposed to be here, I will address them.
First: who defines "Justifiable"? If some little baby just happens to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, lets... -
August 7th 2005, 05:30 PM
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Re: Human consciousness-proof of the spirit world
And it must be your policy to run away when confronted with the obvious contradiction in your position. :eek:
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August 6th 2005, 08:47 PM
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Re: Human consciousness-proof of the spirit world
Now I realize this is hard for you to follow but lets go very slowly through the sequence.
1. In a person who is effected by brain abnormalities, the dualists says that although the brain has a... -
August 1st 2005, 10:41 AM
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Re: Human consciousness-proof of the spirit world
The other way to determine things is through inference. Deduction shows there is no physical evidence of a soul. Inference says that if we observe anomolies that are relative to a percieved...
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July 31st 2005, 08:51 AM
Thread: How many of us are scientists?
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Poll: Re: How many of us are scientists?
Now as an engineer engaged in plasma applications and ionic acceleration I would like to think I qualify. But in the strictest sense, I do most of these applications with intent on finding better...
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July 26th 2005, 07:34 PM
Thread: Mind your own business
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Re: Mind your own business
For the dense of mind there is a difference between the legal manifestation and requirements of domestic partnerships and marriage. The recognition of the partnership by allowing the title...
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July 19th 2005, 08:43 AM
Thread: Mind your own business
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Re: Mind your own business
Those are called Domestic partner laws and if you live in the 18 or so states that have emplemented those laws you are required to provide the related coverage if you provide coverage to heterosexual...
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July 19th 2005, 08:31 AM
Thread: Does God Answer Prayer?
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Re: Does God Answer Prayer?
I will try to make it simple for your simple mind: If you give God credit for directing everything, he is then responsible for "everything". He is responsible for all the atrocities as well as all...
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July 18th 2005, 12:42 PM
Thread: Does God Answer Prayer?
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Re: Does God Answer Prayer?
Your avoidance of the issue does not forward your cause:
Likewise how could we tell unsuccessful prayer that just happens to work out positively from answered prayer?
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July 18th 2005, 12:19 PM
Thread: Mind your own business
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Re: Mind your own business
That position as rightly justifies non-theists to assert your choice to believe in an imaginary God needs to be corrected because: Everything "effects" everyone. That I guess is the difference...
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July 18th 2005, 09:52 AM
Thread: Mind your own business
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Re: Mind your own business
Would you please explain how allowing someone else to engage in activities which do not effect you, your life, your actions or your sensibilities such as responsible self medication or private...
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July 18th 2005, 09:14 AM
Thread: Does God Answer Prayer?
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Re: Does God Answer Prayer?
Mark the tape! I'm about to agree with you. Yes it is inconclusive because in reality it is impossible to control for the studied object. You can't tell all the groups families, "Don't pray for this...
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July 17th 2005, 09:15 PM
Thread: Does God Answer Prayer?
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Re: Does God Answer Prayer?
If he can't respond within structured parameters laid out by scientists what makes you think he will be able to respond any other time? Does he only work when you want him too? Does he not like...
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July 17th 2005, 05:38 PM
Thread: Does God Answer Prayer?
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Re: Does God Answer Prayer?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/14/AR2005071401695.html
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July 17th 2005, 09:20 AM
Thread: Does God Answer Prayer?
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Re: Does God Answer Prayer?
I believe that quote is normally attributed to Carl Sagan.
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July 16th 2005, 08:14 PM
Thread: Antlions are really cool!
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Re: Antlions are really cool!
Along the same lines there is a fish which spits water to knock insects into the water. There is a spider which holds a trap in it's arms and literally drops the net onto passing insects. The real...
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July 16th 2005, 02:08 PM
Thread: A quick question about evolution
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Re: A quick question about evolution
There is one type of organism which is non-sexual and has over 360 different spieces. The Rotifer bdelloid. Under the restrictive definition of species which is normally inability to interbreed,...





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