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    Re: Moses writing about Jesus

    Question arising - Is it the man, Jesus, that Jesus is referring to, or the logos?
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    Re: Gal. 4:14 -- Is Jesus An Angel?

    Oddly - I can see how that opinion would arise. The pre-incarnate Christ is strongly identified with the Archangel, Michael.
    But that is not particularly convincing, given that the incarnate-Christ...
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    Re: The RCC: Mary as the 4th person of the Trinity

    So thought I until recently. It now appears possible (to me) that there is a cut-off prior to death, beyond which time assurance is achieved. However, I haven't examined the matter in detail - to...
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    Re: The RCC: Mary as the 4th person of the Trinity

    και ουκ εγινωσκεν αυτην εως ου ετεκεν τον υιον αυτης τον πρωτοτοκον και εκαλεσεν το ονομα αυτου ιησουν

    With εως marking the terminus ad quem, according to dictionary definition, it seems...
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    Re: There is no evidence for a biblical jesus

    Being as how I am not a slave owner, I consider that those who labour on my behalf are worthy of their wages. If I find their labour not worthy of the wages, I will not take advantage of their...
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    Re: Best translation

    Indeed.

    The resolution however, tends to cause conniptions.
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    Re: Gal. 4:14 -- Is Jesus An Angel?

    And yet, that same sentence also says you welcomed me as ... Christ.

    As to the rest, agreed.
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    Re: Best translation

    Not that I am a fan of (most) modern versions of the Bible, but in this case the problem is seated in the older versions. απειθεω means "to not comply/heed", so whether the earlier versions are...
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    Re: There is no evidence for a biblical jesus

    The monies collected went first to the needy members of the church. A radical difference from the scam churches you refer to.

    Paul supported himself by working, taking no monies from the church...
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    Re: Gal. 4:14 -- Is Jesus An Angel?

    How often does Paul refer to Jesus as the Christ? χριστος is Koine for Messiah is it not?
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    Re: Gal. 4:14 -- Is Jesus An Angel?

    In which case you would have a Christ-like angel: or even "a Christ-like angel like me" would become possible.
    Even so, "an/the angel who is Christ" is still a long way from being viable as an...
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    Re: Gal. 4:14 -- Is Jesus An Angel?

    As can be seen from the thread at http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?153829-Jesus-of-Nazareth-Not-God, I am not overly excited by orthodox theology.

    ως Α ως Β would seem to preclude...
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    Re: The Physics of Superheroes

    Shoosh. You'll have Magellan and Co believing it.
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    Re: Terrorist profiling

    The rationale is simple. Tie the terrorist organisations down thoroughly enough to defending homeground, and they don't get time or resources enough to spare for attack.
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    Re: The seduction of the Christian Mind.

    There is no need to change or water it down.
    You've simply declared that 1+1+1=∞
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    Re: Terrorist profiling

    And if US (and sundry other) troops were to be recalled, that would almost certainly change.
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    Re: Best translation

    It's as good as translations get.

    NET Bible though - Not one that I choose to open.
    AKJV (King James) is OK, but others have pointed out the risks.

    Check 2 Chronicles 3:15 - If the pillars...
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    Re: The Physics of Superheroes

    Tiger and Bunny - the superheroes' superheroes.
    85299
    They get corporate sponsorship even:
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    Re: The seduction of the Christian Mind.

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    Re: Christian Parents

    Yup - and because of it, that kind of bombing was not repeated in Germany. The data gathered was used in later "forays" in Japan, using a specially designed new bomb - the precursor to napalm. Tokyo...
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    Re: Christian Parents

    agreement - subject to understanding that the agreement is strictly limited to the terms expressed - is extended.
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    Re: Baptism a public declaration of one's faith?

    I have done some rummaging and comparing in response to George Blaisdell's comments on the matter of Paul's baptism.
    It would seem that I kind of overlooked an important factor, to wit:
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    Re: Christian Parents

     
    Germany and Italy were not blown into oblivion. And in the case of Japan, yes - there were a number of sustained atrocities, even prior to the bombing Hiroshima.
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    Re: There is no evidence for a biblical jesus

    http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/13232-saul-of-tarsus

    It's an interesting read. Why would the Jewish Encylopaedia go to such lengths to discredit someone who never existed?
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    Re: There is no evidence for a biblical jesus

    Until a scant few years ago, the only extant records of Pontius Pilate's presence in Judea was recorded in the Bible. And people were saying that the Bible was incorrect because no independent...
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    Re: Heresy & Salvation

    "Good" teacher won't spend a lot of time explaining the scriptures, he'll be too busy explaining the proper techniques for reading them.



    :rofl: - that exludes CoR and Orthodox from bearing the...
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    Re: 7th heaven

    How does that make David equivalent with God? The assembly bowed and prostrated themselves - pretty much standard behaviour (for the time) when giving obeisance to any higher authority. Joseph's...
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    Re: Keynesian Economics - Does it Work?

    I am led to believe that Japan operates on an essentially Keynesian basis. They seem to be doing OK with it.
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    Re: There is no evidence for a biblical jesus

    The parable explained:
    The investigators of the accidents. Atheists.
    The drivers of the street-cars. Chroniclers of Jesus's miracles.
    The street-car running out of control by reason of a short...
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    Re: Concerning Kent Hovind, just curious ...

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    Re: There is no evidence for a biblical jesus

    I didn't use "impossible" by mistake - your view of what is impossible is flawed.

    Based on personal experience, I cannot rule out the possibility of supernatural causes.
    Based on nothing, you...
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    Re: Hollow Earth caused Continental Drift

    Adrift is a brave man - he should be mentioned in despatches.
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    Re: Hollow Earth caused Continental Drift

    Actually, it was pretty good before we adopted the American system: people even knew how to spell "colour" properly.
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    Re: Baptism a public declaration of one's faith?

    Again, I understand your reservations. It is however, an effective process when used properly, and as in my case, when working in a language in which I have no more than elementary skills. Narrows...
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    Re: Baptism a public declaration of one's faith?

    Baptism, no less than any other aspect of living the faith, requires active participation and not mere assent.



    Again - with regard to the Ethiopian eunuch.
    He was travelling by chariot. Open...
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    Re: Baptism a public declaration of one's faith?

    ειπεν τε ο αγγελος προς αυτον περιζωσαι και υποδησαι τα σανδαλια
    Acts 12:8 and the angel said to him, "Gird yourself and bind your sandals" - Both "gird" and "bind" are aorist imperative middle....
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    Re: There is no evidence for a biblical jesus

    Or maybe -



    someone in my accounting department got something wrong.
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    Re: There is no evidence for a biblical jesus

    Some years ago, a street-car driver lost control of a street-car, which rammed the street-car in front of it. At the inquiry, the driver was asked what he considered may have caused the accident. He...
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    Re: The Calvinist Gospel

    By contrast, most of the accounts in the Bible refer to people receiving the gospel with joy.
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    Re: There is no evidence for a biblical jesus

    INVESTIGATORS could find no evidence of a reason for the fire to have guttered out where and when it did. These were professional people, investigating a variety of factors involved with the fire -...
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    Re: Baptism a public declaration of one's faith?

    Overwhelmingly I would agree with - but solely?
    και νυν τι μελλεις αναστας βαπτισαι και απολουσαι τας αμαρτιας σου επικαλεσαμενος το ονομα του κυριου
    The command is given in Acts 22:16 - YOU wash...
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    Re: The Calvinist Gospel

    What shall we say then?
    Was it part of Christ's mission to set us free from the penalty for sin? yes or no?
    Was it part of Christ's mission to set us free from sin? yes or no?
    Has Christ failed...
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    Re: Baptism a public declaration of one's faith?

    I rather like that one, but it would make putting it on a slide rather difficult, given that the prior context would have to be included.



    More a matter of baptism being of no effect had Christ...
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    Re: The seduction of the Christian Mind.

    Is this a reference to the seven churches mentioned in Revelation chapters 2 and 3?
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    Re: There is no evidence for a biblical jesus

    Given that this is nowhere in conflict with scripture, the only problem that arises is whether "most contemporary scholars" consider that he was either rightly or wrongly regarded as a teacher and...
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    Re: The seduction of the Christian Mind.

    Rev 16:6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, And You have given them blood to drink.

    Rev 17:6 I saw the woman, drunk with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the...
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    Re: The seduction of the Christian Mind.

    The beast is atheist: no religion is tolerated.
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    Re: The seduction of the Christian Mind.

    Yep. Nailed it is. Franktalk's comment was simple vernacular. It was not even directed at any given person.

    This issue is entirely different - In fact, (in my opinion) it warranted a severe...
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    Re: The seduction of the Christian Mind.

    For reasons I don't quite understand - I view askance the claim that Franktalk's usual behaviour is adequate justification for behaving like Franktalk.
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    Re: There is no evidence for a biblical jesus

    Natch. That's why I included the codicil.



    It goes without saying that the more important the matter, the higher the requisite imputed standard of witness reliablity.
    A: Where's the money you...
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