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    Re: YEC perspective of Adam and Eve

    I personally think Ross's attempts to align his theories with the Bible seem a little forced at times. He has a good hermeneutical grip of the early chapters of Genesis but what I remember of reading...
  2. Thread: Rip BSA

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    Re: Rip BSA

    No. The BSA allows all different kind of religious groups to give out religious awards to Scouts (i.e. Zoroastrian, Christian, Buddhist, Unitarian Universalist, etc.) A very high percentage of troops...
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    Re: May 2013 Screwballs

    On my phone so no link handy, but Stefcui for defining OEC and TE as gnosticism.
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    Re: Eternal Torment in Hell

    Sort of a side question, but I'm just curious.. what do you make of the Wesleyan quadrilateral, especially in light of this?
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    Re: YEC perspective of Adam and Eve

    OECs generally all believe in the historicity of Adam and Eve (Hugh Ross, the leading OEC proponent, actually wrote a book called Who Was Adam?). You clearly have absolutely no idea what the...
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    Re: Stoning Rebellious Children

    The legal codes (Romans 13).
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    Re: Stoning Rebellious Children

    I'll just link here: http://www.tektonics.org/lp/lawrole.html
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    Re: YEC perspective of TE and OEC

    Stefcui, do you even know what "gnostic" means?

    Also, your statement that robrecht disbelieves the gospels is completely unsupported by anything he said.
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    Re: May 2013 Screwballs

    Whenever I call fans of Jones, etc. out, I just get accused of running ad homs. Apparently pointing out their virtually nonexistent track record of ever being right somehow isn't fair game. :shrug:
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    Re: Eternal Torment in Hell

    (Actually, that Bowles article is what basically brought that detail to my attention.)
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    What?
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    Re: The Brother of the Lord

    In that culture, would the same word have been used for "brother" and "half-brother", since the latter is what they technically were?
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    Re: Eternal Torment in Hell

    It comes very close to it in verse 11, but doesn't specifically say it (forever is in the previous clause). If you want to look at the biggest challenge to the annihilationist position, look at...
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    Re: Eternal Torment in Hell

    One little detail in Revelation 14 that most people miss (or overlook) is that the torment is in the presence of the angels and the Lamb (Jesus) (see verse 10). Since people who come to differing...
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    Re: Word Train!

    no
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    Re: YEC perspective of TE and OEC

    Yes, Stefcui, I get it. You think I'm not a Christian, and I'm going to hell. Your argument has been heard, and heard well. You don't need to keep bringing it up.
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    Re: YEC perspective of TE and OEC

    The other issue is that the earliest people in Genesis are portrayed as farmers when agriculture didn't develop until much sooner. Of course, theoretically it is possible that some of them figured...
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    Re: YEC perspective of TE and OEC

    I'll definitely take a look at it and thanks for posting it. I'll admit that I'm not familiar with that particular angle but I think it would be great if we could find a way to reconcile a historic...
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    Re: Word Train!

    Iraq
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    Re: Word Train!

    wasabi
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    Re: May 2013 Screwballs

    I've never seen another post inserted between the duplicates though.

    :outtie:
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    Re: Word Train!

    electrode
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    Re: YEC perspective of TE and OEC

    As I said in the other thread, this is certainly the strongest theological objection to TE. I really want to read through Pete Enns's recent book on Adam (I think they have it at the library here so...
  24. Re: Multiple water baptisms for a Christian?

    (Did you mean to post this in the other thread? I'll go ahead and briefly respond here that yes, I agree this is by far the strongest scriptural argument against TE and I am still working through the...
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    Re: May 2013 Screwballs

    A rare article about sports and Christianity that truly is anti-screwball worthy. Good find.
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    Re: May 2013 Screwballs

    A rare article about sports and Christianity that truly is anti-screwball worthy. Good find.
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    I know of at least one church (I think they're affiliated with the ICC) which teaches that if you weren't sincere enough at your first baptism, even if you later become more serious in your faith,...
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    Re: Word Train!

    crwth
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    Re: YEC perspective of TE and OEC

    Are Jesus's parables factual accounts? Yes or no.
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    Re: May 2013 Screwballs

    Well, you're the one who got me to sign up, so I'm sure that might make everybody more inclined to think so. :tongue:
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    Re: YEC perspective of TE and OEC

    One key difference here is that archaeologists haven't been able to confirm it, which is, in essence, an absence of evidence. Most scientists would argue for positive evidence for evolution (as...
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    Re: YEC perspective of TE and OEC

    I brought this up to Stef before, but for the benefit of everyone: We have an example from the early church of a difference in level of literal interpretation being considered okay. Justin Martyr...
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    Re: YEC perspective of TE and OEC

    Yikes, I worded that badly. I mean to say that the meaning of the specific details such as the days of creation have spiritual and theological significance, as opposed to literal significance.
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    Re: YEC perspective of TE and OEC

    Um, I'm fully sane and not delusional?
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    Re: YEC perspective of TE and OEC

    This entire post is laden with slippery slopes, but I simply have one question: Is church history infallible? Are the early Christians infallible? If they are, then what is the point of interpreting...
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    Re: YEC perspective of TE and OEC

    Genetic evidence from the human genome project basically rule out the possibility of a genetic Adam and genetic Eve at the same time. It's not that I don't believe that God had the power to do all...
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    Re: YEC perspective of TE and OEC

    I have taken a look at all the biblical passages describing what is necessary for salvation, and I am not sure which of those my position would violate.

    Having said that, I think appealing to what...
  38. Thread: Seeking

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    Re: Seeking

    That used to terrify me so badly; however, the matter can't be so simple because James 5:19-20 and 1 Timothy 1:20 imply otherwise (and I think in a more clear manner than what Hebrews or Jude would...
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    Re: Is there a Satan

    Generally, copying and pasting the work of others without a comment of your own is indicative of a lack of desire to have a discussion.
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    Re: YEC perspective of TE and OEC

    These certainly aren't easy questions to answer. Anybody who professes to go against that the church has nearly unanimously believes has the burden of proof for it is not a light statement to make....
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    Re: YEC perspective of TE and OEC

    Addendum: Essentially, all of the content from Lamoureux's book is available in web lecture format on his website here:

    http://www.ualberta.ca/~dlamoure/web_lectures.htm
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    Re: YEC perspective of TE and OEC

    You may not like what I have to say but I will be upfront about what I believe.

    My view is essentially that which Denis Lamoureux espouses in his book Evolutionary Creation; he rejects concordism...
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    Re: May 2013 Screwballs

    36 seconds of your life you'll never get back:


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1ncB-cyBa4
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    Re: Dealing With a Depressed Partner

    I'm not sure where I would be right now without antidepressants. I think it's dangerous to discourage people from getting the help they need.
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    Re: May 2013 Screwballs

    I just want to make one thing clear: My screwball nomination was not against all YECs as a whole. It was against the argument that angels breeded with fish and birds to create dinosaurs.
  46. Thread: Seeking

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    Re: Seeking

    I've actually gone through the same fear of blaspheming the Holy Spirit before in my past, but the one main thing that set my heart at rest was realizing that the common saying "if you're worried...
  47. Thread: Seeking

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    Re: Seeking

    Welcome to TheologyWeb! It's good to have you here. We'd be glad to discuss anything here you'd like to.

    If you don't mind me asking, can you go a little more into detail about what you believe...
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    Re: Is there a Satan

    I echo what CP said, but I simply cannot allow this slander against God to go unchallenged... http://www.tektonics.org/gk/godevil.html
  49. Debate Re: A wife is to fear her husband as her master/lord

    foudroyant (hereafter “foud”) quotes Paul O’Neil here to suggest that we cannot abstract a full sense of egalitarianism from Ephesians 5:21, and to be honest, I do think some egalitarians have...
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    Re: Best Critique of the Theory of Evolution

    But why limit it to critiques of evolution? I would suggest pointing out to the kids that Christians have multiple views on it (YEC, OEC, theistic evolution) and maybe present some basic arguments...
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