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Today, 02:07 AM
Thread: YEC perspective of Adam and Eve
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Re: YEC perspective of Adam and Eve
I personally think Ross's attempts to align his theories with the Bible seem a little forced at times. He has a good hermeneutical grip of the early chapters of Genesis but what I remember of reading...
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Yesterday, 02:22 PM
Thread: Rip BSA
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Re: Rip BSA
No. The BSA allows all different kind of religious groups to give out religious awards to Scouts (i.e. Zoroastrian, Christian, Buddhist, Unitarian Universalist, etc.) A very high percentage of troops...
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May 22nd 2013, 02:30 PM
Thread: May 2013 Screwballs
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Re: May 2013 Screwballs
On my phone so no link handy, but Stefcui for defining OEC and TE as gnosticism.
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May 21st 2013, 11:06 PM
Thread: Eternal Torment in Hell
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Re: Eternal Torment in Hell
Sort of a side question, but I'm just curious.. what do you make of the Wesleyan quadrilateral, especially in light of this?
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May 21st 2013, 09:36 PM
Thread: YEC perspective of Adam and Eve
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Re: YEC perspective of Adam and Eve
OECs generally all believe in the historicity of Adam and Eve (Hugh Ross, the leading OEC proponent, actually wrote a book called Who Was Adam?). You clearly have absolutely no idea what the...
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May 21st 2013, 07:40 PM
Thread: Stoning Rebellious Children
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Re: Stoning Rebellious Children
The legal codes (Romans 13).
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May 21st 2013, 07:22 PM
Thread: Stoning Rebellious Children
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Re: Stoning Rebellious Children
I'll just link here: http://www.tektonics.org/lp/lawrole.html
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May 21st 2013, 06:23 PM
Thread: YEC perspective of TE and OEC
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Re: YEC perspective of TE and OEC
Stefcui, do you even know what "gnostic" means?
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May 21st 2013, 04:37 PM
Thread: May 2013 Screwballs
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Re: May 2013 Screwballs
Whenever I call fans of Jones, etc. out, I just get accused of running ad homs. Apparently pointing out their virtually nonexistent track record of ever being right somehow isn't fair game. :shrug:
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May 21st 2013, 04:11 PM
Thread: Eternal Torment in Hell
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Re: Eternal Torment in Hell
(Actually, that Bowles article is what basically brought that detail to my attention.)
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May 21st 2013, 02:49 PM
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May 21st 2013, 01:54 PM
Thread: The Brother of the Lord
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Re: The Brother of the Lord
In that culture, would the same word have been used for "brother" and "half-brother", since the latter is what they technically were?
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May 21st 2013, 01:51 PM
Thread: Eternal Torment in Hell
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Re: Eternal Torment in Hell
It comes very close to it in verse 11, but doesn't specifically say it (forever is in the previous clause). If you want to look at the biggest challenge to the annihilationist position, look at...
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May 21st 2013, 01:48 PM
Thread: Eternal Torment in Hell
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Re: Eternal Torment in Hell
One little detail in Revelation 14 that most people miss (or overlook) is that the torment is in the presence of the angels and the Lamb (Jesus) (see verse 10). Since people who come to differing...
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May 21st 2013, 12:59 PM
Thread: Word Train!
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May 21st 2013, 12:29 PM
Thread: YEC perspective of TE and OEC
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Re: YEC perspective of TE and OEC
Yes, Stefcui, I get it. You think I'm not a Christian, and I'm going to hell. Your argument has been heard, and heard well. You don't need to keep bringing it up.
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May 20th 2013, 11:26 PM
Thread: YEC perspective of TE and OEC
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Re: YEC perspective of TE and OEC
The other issue is that the earliest people in Genesis are portrayed as farmers when agriculture didn't develop until much sooner. Of course, theoretically it is possible that some of them figured...
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May 20th 2013, 08:22 PM
Thread: YEC perspective of TE and OEC
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Re: YEC perspective of TE and OEC
I'll definitely take a look at it and thanks for posting it. I'll admit that I'm not familiar with that particular angle but I think it would be great if we could find a way to reconcile a historic...
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May 20th 2013, 07:14 PM
Thread: Word Train!
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Re: Word Train!
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May 20th 2013, 07:03 PM
Thread: Word Train!
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May 20th 2013, 06:20 PM
Thread: May 2013 Screwballs
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Re: May 2013 Screwballs
I've never seen another post inserted between the duplicates though.
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May 20th 2013, 06:18 PM
Thread: Word Train!
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May 20th 2013, 06:16 PM
Thread: YEC perspective of TE and OEC
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Re: YEC perspective of TE and OEC
As I said in the other thread, this is certainly the strongest theological objection to TE. I really want to read through Pete Enns's recent book on Adam (I think they have it at the library here so...
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May 20th 2013, 06:11 PM
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Re: Multiple water baptisms for a Christian?
(Did you mean to post this in the other thread? I'll go ahead and briefly respond here that yes, I agree this is by far the strongest scriptural argument against TE and I am still working through the...
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May 20th 2013, 06:07 PM
Thread: May 2013 Screwballs
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Re: May 2013 Screwballs
A rare article about sports and Christianity that truly is anti-screwball worthy. Good find.
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May 20th 2013, 06:06 PM
Thread: May 2013 Screwballs
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Re: May 2013 Screwballs
A rare article about sports and Christianity that truly is anti-screwball worthy. Good find.
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May 20th 2013, 05:51 PM
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Re: Multiple water baptisms for a Christian?
I know of at least one church (I think they're affiliated with the ICC) which teaches that if you weren't sincere enough at your first baptism, even if you later become more serious in your faith,...
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May 20th 2013, 05:37 PM
Thread: Word Train!
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Re: Word Train!
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May 20th 2013, 05:24 PM
Thread: YEC perspective of TE and OEC
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Re: YEC perspective of TE and OEC
Are Jesus's parables factual accounts? Yes or no.
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May 20th 2013, 01:15 PM
Thread: May 2013 Screwballs
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Re: May 2013 Screwballs
Well, you're the one who got me to sign up, so I'm sure that might make everybody more inclined to think so. :tongue:
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May 20th 2013, 12:45 PM
Thread: YEC perspective of TE and OEC
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Re: YEC perspective of TE and OEC
One key difference here is that archaeologists haven't been able to confirm it, which is, in essence, an absence of evidence. Most scientists would argue for positive evidence for evolution (as...
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May 20th 2013, 12:43 PM
Thread: YEC perspective of TE and OEC
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Re: YEC perspective of TE and OEC
I brought this up to Stef before, but for the benefit of everyone: We have an example from the early church of a difference in level of literal interpretation being considered okay. Justin Martyr...
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May 20th 2013, 12:00 PM
Thread: YEC perspective of TE and OEC
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Re: YEC perspective of TE and OEC
Yikes, I worded that badly. I mean to say that the meaning of the specific details such as the days of creation have spiritual and theological significance, as opposed to literal significance.
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May 20th 2013, 02:25 AM
Thread: YEC perspective of TE and OEC
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Re: YEC perspective of TE and OEC
Um, I'm fully sane and not delusional?
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May 20th 2013, 02:20 AM
Thread: YEC perspective of TE and OEC
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Re: YEC perspective of TE and OEC
This entire post is laden with slippery slopes, but I simply have one question: Is church history infallible? Are the early Christians infallible? If they are, then what is the point of interpreting...
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May 20th 2013, 02:14 AM
Thread: YEC perspective of TE and OEC
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Re: YEC perspective of TE and OEC
Genetic evidence from the human genome project basically rule out the possibility of a genetic Adam and genetic Eve at the same time. It's not that I don't believe that God had the power to do all...
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May 20th 2013, 12:23 AM
Thread: YEC perspective of TE and OEC
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Re: YEC perspective of TE and OEC
I have taken a look at all the biblical passages describing what is necessary for salvation, and I am not sure which of those my position would violate.
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May 20th 2013, 12:14 AM
Thread: Seeking
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Re: Seeking
That used to terrify me so badly; however, the matter can't be so simple because James 5:19-20 and 1 Timothy 1:20 imply otherwise (and I think in a more clear manner than what Hebrews or Jude would...
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May 19th 2013, 11:56 PM
Thread: Is there a Satan
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Re: Is there a Satan
Generally, copying and pasting the work of others without a comment of your own is indicative of a lack of desire to have a discussion.
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May 19th 2013, 11:53 PM
Thread: YEC perspective of TE and OEC
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Re: YEC perspective of TE and OEC
These certainly aren't easy questions to answer. Anybody who professes to go against that the church has nearly unanimously believes has the burden of proof for it is not a light statement to make....
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May 19th 2013, 11:16 PM
Thread: YEC perspective of TE and OEC
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Re: YEC perspective of TE and OEC
Addendum: Essentially, all of the content from Lamoureux's book is available in web lecture format on his website here:
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May 19th 2013, 11:12 PM
Thread: YEC perspective of TE and OEC
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You may not like what I have to say but I will be upfront about what I believe.
My view is essentially that which Denis Lamoureux espouses in his book Evolutionary Creation; he rejects concordism... -
May 19th 2013, 09:20 PM
Thread: May 2013 Screwballs
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Re: May 2013 Screwballs
36 seconds of your life you'll never get back:
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May 19th 2013, 04:42 PM
Thread: Dealing With a Depressed Partner
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Re: Dealing With a Depressed Partner
I'm not sure where I would be right now without antidepressants. I think it's dangerous to discourage people from getting the help they need.
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May 19th 2013, 04:18 PM
Thread: May 2013 Screwballs
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Re: May 2013 Screwballs
I just want to make one thing clear: My screwball nomination was not against all YECs as a whole. It was against the argument that angels breeded with fish and birds to create dinosaurs.
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May 19th 2013, 04:15 PM
Thread: Seeking
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Re: Seeking
I've actually gone through the same fear of blaspheming the Holy Spirit before in my past, but the one main thing that set my heart at rest was realizing that the common saying "if you're worried...
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May 19th 2013, 03:39 PM
Thread: Seeking
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Re: Seeking
Welcome to TheologyWeb! It's good to have you here. We'd be glad to discuss anything here you'd like to.
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May 19th 2013, 01:57 AM
Thread: Is there a Satan
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Re: Is there a Satan
I echo what CP said, but I simply cannot allow this slander against God to go unchallenged... http://www.tektonics.org/gk/godevil.html
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May 19th 2013, 01:05 AM
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Debate Re: A wife is to fear her husband as her master/lord
foudroyant (hereafter “foud”) quotes Paul O’Neil here to suggest that we cannot abstract a full sense of egalitarianism from Ephesians 5:21, and to be honest, I do think some egalitarians have...
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May 18th 2013, 10:27 PM
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Re: Best Critique of the Theory of Evolution
But why limit it to critiques of evolution? I would suggest pointing out to the kids that Christians have multiple views on it (YEC, OEC, theistic evolution) and maybe present some basic arguments...





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