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    "I don't know ... and you don't either."

    The above is my usual illustrative phrase of "hard agnosticism." More formally, "If a deity exists, knowledge of said deity is impossible." (I will note that I rather doubt the existence of deity, but I am also persuaded that definitive knowledge that no such entity exists is beyond our capacity.)

    What other naturalistic views do we have here on TWeb?
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    My conclusion thus far is that evidence for a deity is at best ambiguous. If there is one, I consider it functionally irrelevant. I don't agree that knowledge* of it is impossible, but I suspect it's not something that could ever be shared.






    *Granting for the moment that knowledge is actually attainable, which I generally don't believe.
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    I'm not really sure if I'm allowed in here, but I think that while there's probably some sort of creator, said creator does not seem to interact much if at all with the Universe, so whoever created the Universe is not really worth worrying about much.
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    Last edited by Sparko; 06-27-2016 at 08:23 PM.
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