The Theostudent thread.......

[Theostudent]

Yeah, right. Prove where I have abandoned the Way, O Judge of my soul.

Has JP *himself* admitted rejecting the faith? And who gets to define the faith? (you, perhaps?)

Only the words of Jesus will prove it to you brother. I do not have to prove anything.

By his words we will be justified and by his words we shall be condemned.

The faith is in our lord, abiding in him is the faith, nothing more, nothing less.

I do not judge souls but I judge all things for it is written.


1 Corinthians 2:15
The spiritual person judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one. 16 “For who has understood the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?” But we have the mind of Christ.

[LilPunkishOfTerror]

Hang on, am I your brother, or am I lost? Can't be both.

[Theostudent]

Hang on, am I your brother, or am I lost? Can't be both.

all people are my brothers.

either through nature, or through spirit, which do you think it is?

Brother.

[LilPunkishOfTerror]

I was speaking spiritually, of course. Am I your brother?

[Theostudent]

I was speaking spiritually, of course. Am I your brother?

Have you been born again in the spirit of our Lord Jesus and His Father who is God the Almighty?

if yes, you are my spiritual brother.

if no, you are my natural brother.

And I love you the same either way brother.

[LilPunkishOfTerror]

Have you been born again in the spirit of our Lord Jesus and His Father who is God the Almighty?

Yes. But the way you worded that makes me want to ask, are you denying that Jesus is God the Son?

[Theostudent]

Yes. But the way you worded that makes me want to ask, are you denying that Jesus is God the Son?

The son of man is the Son of God.

Jesus is the Son of Man.

Jesus is the Son of God.

[LilPunkishOfTerror]

The son of man is the Son of God.

Jesus is the Son of Man.

Jesus is the Son of God.

That's not what I asked. Do you affirm the Trinity?

[Theostudent]

That's not what I asked. Do you affirm the Trinity?

God the Father, Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit are real, and I love them all.

[LilPunkishOfTerror]

God the Father, Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit are real, and I love them all.

In this sense? yes or no:

1. Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith;
2. Which faith except every one do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly.
3. And the catholic faith is this: That we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity;
4. Neither confounding the persons nor dividing the substance.
5. For there is one person of the Father, another of the Son, and another of the Holy Spirit.
6. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit is all one, the glory equal, the majesty coeternal.
7. Such as the Father is, such is the Son, and such is the Holy Spirit.
8. The Father uncreated, the Son uncreated, and the Holy Spirit uncreated.
9. The Father incomprehensible, the Son incomprehensible, and the Holy Spirit incomprehensible.
10. The Father eternal, the Son eternal, and the Holy Spirit eternal.
11. And yet they are not three eternals but one eternal.
12. As also there are not three uncreated nor three incomprehensible, but one uncreated and one incomprehensible.
13. So likewise the Father is almighty, the Son almighty, and the Holy Spirit almighty.
14. And yet they are not three almighties, but one almighty.
15. So the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God;
16. And yet they are not three Gods, but one God.
17. So likewise the Father is Lord, the Son Lord, and the Holy Spirit Lord;
18. And yet they are not three Lords but one Lord.
19. For like as we are compelled by the Christian verity to acknowledge every Person by himself to be God and Lord;
20. So are we forbidden by the catholic religion to say; There are three Gods or three Lords.
21. The Father is made of none, neither created nor begotten.
22. The Son is of the Father alone; not made nor created, but begotten.
23. The Holy Spirit is of the Father and of the Son; neither made, nor created, nor begotten, but proceeding.
24. So there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons; one Holy Spirit, not three Holy Spirits.
25. And in this Trinity none is afore or after another; none is greater or less than another.
26. But the whole three persons are coeternal, and coequal.
27. So that in all things, as aforesaid, the Unity in Trinity and the Trinity in Unity is to be worshipped.
28. He therefore that will be saved must thus think of the Trinity.
29. Furthermore it is necessary to everlasting salvation that he also believe rightly the incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ.
30. For the right faith is that we believe and confess that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and man.
31. God of the substance of the Father, begotten before the worlds; and man of substance of His mother, born in the world.
32. Perfect God and perfect man, of a reasonable soul and human flesh subsisting.
33. Equal to the Father as touching His Godhead, and inferior to the Father as touching His manhood.
34. Who, although He is God and man, yet He is not two, but one Christ.
35. One, not by conversion of the Godhead into flesh, but by taking of that manhood into God.
36. One altogether, not by confusion of substance, but by unity of person.
37. For as the reasonable soul and flesh is one man, so God and man is one Christ;
38. Who suffered for our salvation, descended into hell, rose again the third day from the dead;
39. He ascended into heaven, He sits on the right hand of the Father, God, Almighty;
40. From thence He shall come to judge the quick and the dead.
41. At whose coming all men shall rise again with their bodies;
42. and shall give account of their own works.
43. And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting and they that have done evil into everlasting fire.
44. This is the catholic faith, which except a man believe faithfully he cannot be saved.

[Theostudent]

In this sense? yes or no:

I am sorry, my Faith is in Jesus Christ, not in catholocism.

[LilPunkishOfTerror]

Then your answer is No. Okay, please explain the following texts to me:
Matthew 22:41-46
41 Now while the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them a question:

42 "What do you think about the Christ, whose son is He?" They said to Him, "The son of David."

43 He said to them, "Then how does David in the Spirit call Him "Lord,' saying,

44 'THE LORD SAID TO MY LORD,
"SIT AT MY RIGHT HAND,
UNTIL I PUT YOUR ENEMIES BENEATH YOUR FEET"'?

45 "If David then calls Him "Lord,' how is He his son?"

46 No one was able to answer Him a word, nor did anyone dare from that day on to ask Him another question.

Hebrews 1:1-2 "This Son is the reflection of that Father's glory, the exact representation of the Father's being."

Colossians 1:15-18
Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
(16) For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether {they be} thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
(17) And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
(18) And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all {things} he might have the preeminence.

Thanks.

[jpholding]

Wow, nice interpretation, is that how you justify your attitude to the Lost people who reside in the darkness?

your attitude towards the people not in the Lords hand is contemptable to me.

Your spelling is pretty contemptible.

You also don't seem to be much for giving straight or effective answers. The last round with Punkish sure doesn't give you much credibility.

I'll just watch for a while to see if you ever give any real answers.

Mods, please split this off into another thread as time allows.

[Theostudent]

Then your answer is No. Okay, please explain the following texts to me:
Matthew 22:41-46
41 Now while the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them a question:

42 "What do you think about the Christ, whose son is He?" They said to Him, "The son of David."

43 He said to them, "Then how does David in the Spirit call Him "Lord,' saying,

44 'THE LORD SAID TO MY LORD,
"SIT AT MY RIGHT HAND,
UNTIL I PUT YOUR ENEMIES BENEATH YOUR FEET"'?

45 "If David then calls Him "Lord,' how is He his son?"

46 No one was able to answer Him a word, nor did anyone dare from that day on to ask Him another question.

And? Jesus Christ is the Firstborn of all creation, he is not God the Father, he is The Son of God, what exactly are you trying to say here, becasue it says nothing about Jesus being God.

Hebrews 1:1-2 "This Son is the reflection of that Father's glory, the exact representation of the Father's being."

a reflection of the fathers glory, representation of his being, he is not God, he is the Son of God

Colossians 1:15-18
Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:
(16) For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether {they be} thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
(17) And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
(18) And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all {things} he might have the preeminence.

Yeah, more abou the eminance of Jesus the Son, where exactly are you getting that God is the Son?

God is the Father

Jesus is the Son of God.

Thanks.

You need to look into the Logos of God, that is what Jesus Christ is in the Flesh, maybe you should research what the Logos is before you follow a man made creed, brother.

[Theostudent]

Your spelling is pretty contemptible.

You also don't seem to be much for giving straight or effective answers. The last round with Punkish sure doesn't give you much credibility.

I'll just watch for a while to see if you ever give any real answers.

Mods, please split this off into another thread as time allows.

of course my answers are not real to you, you onyl believe what the devil whispers in your ear, hatred and ridicule, revenge and pride.

your exaltation of yourself is much more contampatble to the Lord than my spelling is to you.

Brother.