North Carolina Bathroom Bill

[Yttrium]

There has been controversy for some time now regarding transsexual bathroom accommodations. North Carolina has a new bill, House Bill 2, that would force people to use the bathroom corresponding to their biological sex. This has generated quite a bit of controversy, with various businesses and organizations condemning the bill and threatening boycotts.

See here for a recent CNN article: http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/23/politi...ill/index.html

At first glance, I didn't really have a problem with the bill. I'm uncomfortable with the idea of a man claiming to identify as a woman and going into a woman's bathroom, or vice versa. Then I heard on CNN that the bill defines "biological sex" as the sex identified on a person's birth certificate. I verified that in the bill itself:

http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2015E2...e/PDF/H2v1.pdf

[Leonhard]

Does this go so far as to prevent unisex bathrooms?

[Yttrium]

Does this go so far as to prevent unisex bathrooms?

For multiple occupancy bathrooms, yes. From what I've read, single occupancy unisex bathrooms would be okay.

[Leonhard]

For multiple occupancy bathrooms, yes. From what I've read, single occupancy unisex bathrooms would be okay.

Weird.

[Cow Poke]

I think if this were done properly, you'd never know there was a problem. If a transgender looks enough like the gender they have claimed, who would even notice?

[myth]

I think if this were done properly, you'd never know there was a problem. If a transgender looks enough like the gender they have claimed, who would even notice?

That's been on my mind the entire time. There are some...practical issues, you could say..... if one was to go about enforcing laws on the topic.

[Leonhard]

I think if this were done properly, you'd never know there was a problem. If a transgender looks enough like the gender they have claimed, who would even notice?

I still don't get the whole banning of unisex bathrooms. Doesn't that sound a tad bit restrictive to you?

[Mountain Man]

North Carolina has a new bill, House Bill 2, that would force people to use the bathroom corresponding to their biological sex. This has generated quite a bit of controversy...

Just goes to show how screwed up modern culture is when good old fashioned common sense is considered controversial.

[Yttrium]

Just goes to show how screwed up modern culture is when good old fashioned common sense is considered controversial.

If people who had sex change operations weren't involved in this bill, then I wouldn't scoff at your comment.

*scoff*

[Mountain Man]

If people who had sex change operations weren't involved in this bill, then I wouldn't scoff at your comment.

*scoff*

People who mutilate their genitals need psychiatric help.

[Yttrium]

I'm not backing down on that scoff.

[Leonhard]

I still don't get the whole banning of unisex bathrooms. Doesn't that sound a tad bit restrictive to you?

What is common sense about banning unisex bathrooms? Am I really the only one who finds that weird?

They're essentially saying that bathrooms must be gendered. Then they use chromosomes as the defining character of sex, (because intersexed people don't exist).

All to prevent a non-existent problem?

[Mountain Man]

I'm not backing down on that scoff.

"You must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires."
-2 Peter 3:3

[Yttrium]

"You must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires."
-2 Peter 3:3

Ooh, nice comeback. I'll have to remember that one.

[Littlejoe]

I think if this were done properly, you'd never know there was a problem. If a transgender looks enough like the gender they have claimed, who would even notice?

In a public bathroom setting you would be (for the most part) correct, but we have a (well at least one that I know of) "transgendered" person where you know that they were a man 6 months ago, and now they are identifying as a woman. However, in this particular case, I think this person might have a hard time even in a public restroom...

Our company was threatened with a lawsuit if they didn't come up with a solution to provide this person with an acceptable restroom. The women did not want this person in with them and this person did not want to be forced to go to the men's room. The solution for our company was to make both of our two lobby restrooms (which are single occupant) unisex so they had a place to go without upsetting anyone.