Is it true you actually shun and disfellowship your members for their wrong actions?

[SirKnight]

Because if that is true then arent you going agianst the very scripture you teach about love and God being the judge not us. Because i am pretty sure in my translation and yours 1 corinthians 13 doesnt say anything like love is patient and love is kind only when others decide to change and act like us. So if this is your practice can you please give me the scripture to back it up in the NWT.

[Little Shepherd]

You don't shun them. You simply refuse to associate with that person as a brother or sister in Christ if they refuse to turn from certain dangerous behaviors. If they are a biological relative or a fellow employee, you still associate with them as such. There's also nothing in the Bible against judging in general -- only against judging hypocritically. And there's nothing unloving about it.

[LilPunkishOfTerror]

Huh, LS - JWs aren't even supposed to say hello to disfellowshipped JWs.

[Crow]

I'm no JW, nor a big fan of their theology, but have you read I Cor 5 1:12 in your own Bible?

I don't even begin to claim I understand everything about the JW's practices, but I knew a couple of them pretty well, and my understanding is that when someone who has been disfellowshipped repents that they are permitted back into assembly. I'm hoping some JWs will correct me if I'm wrong because I'd like to understand this.

While I don't agree with the majority of the reasons they disfellowship people for and a great many of their other practices and beliefs, I can see a scriptural basis for any church to put the blatantly unrepentant out of assembly.

1 Cor 5 and 1 Cor 13 are by the same author and found within the same book. I don't personally belive Paul to be schizophrenic. I think that Paul is saying that you are to be patient, kind, etc, but you have to draw the line somewhere--some exceptionally wicked and continued practices aren't to be tolerated.

Is your objection to disfellowshipping that they actually draw a line and say that there are some things that they will not tolerate within their church assembly, or is it to where and how that line is drawn? Mine is the latter, but yours seems to be with any church which would ever put a person out of their assembly because it is not loving or patient or kind to do so.

[Little Shepherd]

Huh, LS - JWs aren't even supposed to say hello to disfellowshipped JWs.

Oh, oops. I didn't realize this was in the JW section. This is me . . . backing out slowly . . . or not so slowly.

[LilPunkishOfTerror]

Oh, oops. I didn't realize this was in the JW section. This is me . . . backing out slowly . . . or not so slowly.

LittleShepherd, hey it's no problem.

[The Curtmudgeon]

LittleShepherd, hey it's no problem.

I think we should disfellowship LittleShepherd.

The (aw, do I have to include a smilie?) Curtmudgeon

[Darth Executor]

LittleShepherd, hey it's no problem.

Yes it is. Burn the heretic!

[LilPunkishOfTerror]

Okay. ::burns Darth::

[ApologiaPhoenix]

*Burns Punkish*

[LilPunkishOfTerror]

Ow, that tickles!

[TiaMarsha]

I hope I'm replying to the comment I meant to. Sorry, I'm new to this (old school!). Yes, it's true that JWs 'shun' those who are disfellowshiped (but they do not use that term) and they can only disfellowship persons who have been baptized into their organization. If you were never baptized and associated with them for however long, and you do something they consider 'sinful', i.e. smoking, attending a church, fornication, adultery, they would not be able to get up in front of the whole Kingdom Hall and announce that you had done 'whatever' to be disfellowshiped and to be 'not associated with'.
It doesn't matter if you have repented before God or not, it matters whether or not you continue to believe their doctrine and claim that; and prove that for a period of time, by attending their meetings (and while attending, not being able to talk with people there, or have them talk with you!) and meeting with their elders. If they deem that you are sincere by all of this action, then they will reinstate you, but only under the conditions that you do not attend any 'church' but theirs, and only believe their doctrines.