We Christians here in America have it pretty good. However, seeing the public and media political firestorm building around the clash of conservative and liberal beliefs, that may be changing sometime in the future.
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Without turning this forum into a 'hill of foreskins' (Joshua 5:3), I believe we can still have fun with this 'sensitive' topic.
However, don't be misled, dispensationalism has only partly to do with circumcision issues. So, let's not forget about Innocence, Conscience, Promises, Kingdoms and so on.
End time -isms within orthodox Christianity also discussed here. Clearly unorthodox doctrines, such as those advocating "pantelism/full preterism/Neo-Hymenaeanism" or the denial of any essential of the historic Christian faith are not permitted in this section but can be discussed in Comparative Religions 101 without restriction. Any such threads, as well as any that within the moderator's discretions fall outside mainstream evangelical belief, will be moved to the appropriate area.
Millennialism- post-, pre- a-
Futurism, Historicism, Idealism, and Preterism, or just your garden variety Zionism.
From the tribulation to the anichrist. Whether your tastes run from Gary DeMar to Tim LaHaye or anywhere in between, your input is welcome here.
OK folks, let's roll!
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We Christians here in America have it pretty good. However, seeing the public and media political firestorm building around the clash of conservative and liberal beliefs, that may be changing sometime in the future.Tags: None
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The part that's interesting here is "to make up your minds not to prepare beforehand to defend yourselves; for I will give you utterance and wisdom which none of your opponents will be able to resist or refute". If this applied to every Christian, it would seem to rule out the practice of studying apologetics. I believe the standard view is that this was specifically applied to the apostles, though.
Regardless, no Christian should ever take a time of political favor for granted. The disturbing of complacency is a very Christian concept and persecution can come at any time."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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The specific condition was being held by authorities for one's faith though. I suppose, like everything else about scripture, it's based on whether Jesus was referring to literal captivity or symbolic rhetoric of opposition in general. Though I don't know what preterists argue about this passage, something tells me that even they interpret it as referring to literal persecution of the apostolic church.Last edited by seanD; 02-26-2014, 02:41 PM.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostThe specific condition was being held by authorities for one's faith though."I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill
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We know we're getting it right when we're free of genuine opposition or persecution.For Neo-Remonstration (Arminian/Remonstrant ruminations): <https://theremonstrant.blogspot.com>
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Originally posted by The Remonstrant View PostWe know we're getting it right when we're free of genuine opposition or persecution.
2 Tim 3:[12]*Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThere's an old saying, "if you haven't bumped heads with the devil lately, maybe you and he are going in the same direction".
2 Tim 3:[12]*Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.For Neo-Remonstration (Arminian/Remonstrant ruminations): <https://theremonstrant.blogspot.com>
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Originally posted by The Remonstrant View PostWe should make friends with all our enemies so we may exhibit perfect Christ-like character.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post"love your enemies -- after all, YOU made them".For Neo-Remonstration (Arminian/Remonstrant ruminations): <https://theremonstrant.blogspot.com>
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Originally posted by The Remonstrant View PostOnly in order to make them friends again. It all has a purpose, you see.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostYeah. I get that.For Neo-Remonstration (Arminian/Remonstrant ruminations): <https://theremonstrant.blogspot.com>
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That's something that has always troubled me about this country. Why we are the exception and why we have infinite access to knowledge and learning resources (biblical resources, apologetic resources, historical resources, etc., material as far as the eye can see). That's why I believe when it comes upon us, it's going to come in like a freight train.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostThat's something that has always troubled me about this country. Why we are the exception and why we have infinite access to knowledge and learning resources (biblical resources, apologetic resources, historical resources, etc., material as far as the eye can see). That's why I believe when it comes upon us, it's going to come in like a freight train.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostWell, I never in my life imagined that one day I might be jeered and verbally assaulted for saying something so benign as "marriage is one man and one woman".
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