Can anyone inform me on Pastor Melissa Scott?

[Alan3838]

I think my post is quite clear.

[Pilgrim]

I think my post is quite clear.

Well, it may be to you since you know what you want to say. However, it is not clear to me. Could you help me out with a little clarification?

[Alan3838]

I think the post is quite clear. John 1:14 was simply a verse that explains that the Christ dwelt among us. I asked you to translate it. I would truly ecpect that you could have in a short time.

If you can't then you have no business criticizing someone who can.

[Pilgrim]

Don't be intentionally thick Alan. I knew exactly what the verse was and the translation of it. (BTW, "Tabernacled?" what's that about? That's a poor translation at best.)

What I'm asking is what that verse has to do with Ms. Scott. It almost sounds as if you are saying she is the one who is Christ dwelling among us? That can't be what you're saying is it?

[Alan3838]

Don't be intentionally thick Alan. I knew exactly what the verse was and the translation of it. (BTW, "Tabernacled?" what's that about? That's a poor translation at best.)
if it's poor give a detailed explanation as to why.After all it was you that said you have that understanding.

What I'm asking is what that verse has to do with Ms. Scott. It almost sounds as if you are saying she is the one who is Christ dwelling among us? That can't be what you're saying is it?

You resort to an attack on my faith, why?
Of course that's not what I'm saying she's as human as you and me. I believe Jesus is sitting on His throne on the right of the Father.


I think anyone that reads these threads will see your rhetoric. You've said nothing but have talked in circles.The fact of the matter is that the word tabernacled is the word that John uses. As far as who I believe Jesus is I stated that in an earlier post and even John 1:14 should have given you a hint. I was hoping for intelect.You have criticzed people (i.e. Jack Van Imp who I don't know) for blindly believing what he says.
Everything you've posted you have not supported. It was you that was critical of good teaching and it is you that can/will not support why you said what you said. Instead you turn it into a long drawn out garbled rhetoric. I'm sure some of the 25,000 viewers that have viewed this post would like to get past this crap, I know I would.Now you've been challenged to support your original post. If you can then great we all might be able to learn something but if you can't then your if you can't then just admit it and let it go.I daid Melissa Scott teaches the truth, That's Christ and Him crucified. I'll stick to what I say and why I say it. You have not said a thing. Now put up or shut up.

[Pilgrim]

I have not attacked your faith. I'm trying to understand how John 1:14 is germane to our conversation about Ms. Scott. Nothing more and nothing less. Why is it so hard for you to clarify that for me?

Btw skenow does not equal "tabernacled." Tabernacled is a made up word. One sens of the word is "to dwell as in a tabernacle, or make a tabernacle of..." The better and more plain reading is simply, "lived" or "dwelled" among. To us the word "Tabernacled" sounds like someone using a lexicon or Strong's with out really understanding the language.

[Alan3838]

I have not attacked your faith. I'm trying to understand how John 1:14 is germane to our conversation about Ms. Scott. Nothing more and nothing less. Why is it so hard for you to clarify that for me?

Simple, I simply picked John 1:14 to translate becuase it' does explain that Christ dwelt among us.
I asked you to translate it becuase you said you have studied the languages. You also claim to have knowledge of scripture that is being taught in error. It gives you the oppurtunity to bring or clarify the word to us.

Btw skenow does not equal "tabernacled." Tabernacled is a made up word. One sens of the word is "to dwell as in a tabernacle, or make a tabernacle of..." The better and more plain reading is simply, "lived" or "dwelled" among. To us the word "Tabernacled" sounds like someone using a lexicon or Strong's with out really understanding the language.

Actually []skenoo[/B is the english spelling of the Grk word.Of course that can be found in Strongs.
You are partially correct in the explanation of the word. If you can please complete it.

[Pilgrim]

No need to continue explaining it. As others have said, though, "If it's from Strong, it's probably wrong."

And to be honest, you've not come close to getting the greek spelling of the word correct. I was trying to make things easier with a transliteration.

I do stand corrected though. I've spent the afternoon going over skenow and have come to the conclusion that to use a term like "To tabernacle" is an apt description. (See Kittle's for more.) So there you have it, I was wrong on that score. However, I still prefer the idea of dwelling with in or residing within or amongst to tabernacle.

[Alan3838]

Will Pilgrim you still are not totaly correct. I'm done debatiing with you with you. I believe you know the languages as you claim. You have proven that in your post.
If you believe that Strong's is wrong then by all means you should write and correct them.
You are excellent at rhetoric and I'm truly glad you have so much access to the languages.
The whole point of all this is you used what you claim as "your study of the languages" to tear down the word.
I asked you to tranlate a verse and you camped on (1) word and only got it partially right. Now to sum it all up. I won't be changing the channel when Scott comes on. You said her use of the language is eroneous yet you offer no proof. Pastors are to equip the Saints for the building up of the body of Christ. Eph 4:11-12.
If there is any edification from my part to anyone that reads this it's Pastors need Christ as much as anyone else and if a pastor fails to fulfill his obligation to God then we(body) still have a Saviour in Christ that fulfilled His obligation to the Father 2000 years ago.

Just in case anyone is wondering? The word skhno can be traced back "to lodge". to be tabelnacled in or covered by .In the Grk it is used of Sheperds and flocks. "hence to pass in the night in open air"(Vines expository). Of Christ taking on the form of a human tent coming to be the light of a darkened world.

Good luck to you Pigrim

[cosmotopper]

Could we please return to the topic? Thank you!

[Amazing Rando]

I have not attacked your faith. I'm trying to understand how John 1:14 is germane to our conversation about Ms. Scott. Nothing more and nothing less. Why is it so hard for you to clarify that for me?

Btw skenow does not equal "tabernacled." Tabernacled is a made up word. One sens of the word is "to dwell as in a tabernacle, or make a tabernacle of..." The better and more plain reading is simply, "lived" or "dwelled" among. To us the word "Tabernacled" sounds like someone using a lexicon or Strong's with out really understanding the language.

I've read that John was intentionally echoing the LXX language. That "tabernacle" could be a theological point about how God used to dwell in the tent, but now made his dwelling place in human flesh.

[Pilgrim]

I've read that in more than one place as well.

Still not sure how that applies to the conversation of Ms. Scott?

I mean, if it was just a test for Greek how come Alan didn't test the other guy who started the whole thing with his assertion of being familiar with the languages and then never came back?

[JJ-40]

I consider myself to be an informed, critical thinker who, as a rule discredits most of what passes for teaching and ministry on TV. Greed, profit and ego seem to play a big part in the Christian mi ministry shows on TBN. That being said, I have found Pastor Melissa Scott to be an exception.

I have found her teachings to be consistently well researched with appropriate credit given to the sources quoted in her lectures. Her teachings are sound. The comparisons of the biblical text in Greek, Hebrew, Latin, and numerous other languages are very helpful in clarifying modern (and often less accurate) translations and interpretations of the bible.

To say she's "unqualified" is ridiculous if you have listened to her presentations. They are sincere, informed, well referenced and through. I have been awarded a PhD. in Psychology and find her to be equal to any of my professors or colleagues in mastery of her subject.

Hher teaching tis informed, insightful, sincere, and inspirational.

It's unfortunate that her gender and appearance have made her a target for unfounded criticism. I'm not a feminist but I think that if Pastor M. Scott were a man, the quality of her teaching and scholarship would be internationally acclaimed.

[Alan3838]

I've read that in more than one place as well.

Could you please site that? I do agree with Rando that John was pointing something out about the tabernacle. In Exodus 25 the tabernacle was built and the Ark of the Covenant place inside. It Tabernacled (housed ) the very presence of God.

Still not sure how that applies to the conversation of Ms. Scott?

I mean, if it was just a test for Greek how come Alan didn't test the other guy who started the whole thing with his assertion of being familiar with the languages and then never came back?

Yes it was a test. Anyone that listens to Melissa Scott knows not to "leave thier brain outside the church door".
I didn't test the other pastor becuase he did not tear down the teaching.

This thread has more views than any other thread I've seen on tweb. There must be something that Pastor Scott is teaching that people want to hear. Could it be the truth?

BTW Pilgrim your avatar honoring Tim looks good.

[Doxatheou]

When I was saved in 1975 I first heard Dr. Gene Scott and thought that he was a total head case. He just seemed to rant and rave against everything, then he went into a period where he was just strange, teaching from the boom chairs up in the air, and speaking with pictures of his wife riding horseback. Then there was a change and his teaching got really heavy. He was into Hebrew and Greek exegesis and nothing like the Sunday morning pablam that is served in too many churches. It was definitely for believers who had cut their teeth on the word. I have heard Melissa a few times and she seems to take the same route. She is not a preacher but more of a teacher of advanced level. Her teaching may sometimes rub you the wrong way but she will force you to go to the scripture to examine what she said and what you think, that is if you have any Berean in you. She may not have the degrees and may not travel in the same circles as the more prominent and lettered of the Christian movement but then most of the reformers were belittled and mocked for their views on scripture. It only takes one person stumbling onto a passage of scripture that has become too familiar for God to do something special.
I think that your derision of the lady who posted about women in pastoral leadership and your admonition to leave such matters for scholars(probably such as yourself) was quite rude. If this is what she is convicted in her heart of as truth you do her a grave disservice by trying to muscle her away from her conviction. Paul spoke of that in Romans 15. If the world had listened to the pope, the protestant church would probably not be here. too often we leave the deep thinking to the "scholars" and all they are doing is quoting their favorite teacher who valitdates their position. There comes a point where biblical scholars start standing too much on the teaching of their favorite peers and less on their own exegesis of the Word of God. I think that we are at that point and so let all who would search the scriptures to see if these things that are purported as truth really stand up to the whole word of God and not just pieces of that Word. 1John 2:26,27 seems to say that we do not necessarily need other teachers but rather that His annointing teaches us. Given the state of the Christian church in the good ole USA, UK, and Europe I would say we need to stop reading the commentaries and get back to SOLA SCRIPTURA. We do have the promise from Jesus himself , in John 8:31,32 That if we abide in his word then we wil truly be his disciples, and we will know the truth and the truth will set us free. Do not lean too heavily on the teachings of mere men, no matter how much they seem to love God. The faith that you have, have as your own conviction, not someone elses. Let the lady keep studying and keep posting.