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      Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' disappear from Californian schools

      Quote Originally posted by Jackie Fox View Post
      It varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. A foster parent can immediately adopt a child that has been in their home a while sometimes. Working with an agency applying, getting the child, then formalizing the adoption can take years. Some prospective adoptive parents advertise for pregnant women-girls to let them adopt the child they have. This can be arranged through an attorney. I don't do these but our managing partner did, once. He was so devastated he said he never would do that ever again, but he probably would if it was a regular client and he didn't have to be the go-between, that is, if they had already reached a deal with the girl-woman before coming to him. That can be approved judicially on a stand-by basis and then formalized 6 months to a year afterward depending on the state and the judge.
      One of the ways, in my opinion, that we can attract more people to adopt, in both US of A and Canada, is to reduce the time and paper work. My guess is that some couples don't want to adopt merely because it takes too much time to adopt. There's also that delusion of having the ideal family, which prevents people from adopting kids with problems. I don't care If the Liberals or the Conservatives are responsible for instilling that delusion [I think it's more of a media thing rather than a Political], but if nothing's done about that both sides are responsible.

      It varies from agency to agency. Generally be financially solvent with no criminal record of crimes against children, show you're ready to be a parent, and be matched with a child.
      I have only one question: How does one show that they are 'ready to be a parent'?

      Don't know. Do you have The Indian Child Welfare Act there?
      We have an act called "The Indian Act", which in my opinion, is a big part of Canadian First Nation History [I'm Metis, so this is in a way a piece of my heritage]. I don't know if that's relevant but you can find the official Act here:
      http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/I-5/

      http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.c...=A1ARTA0003975

      The Former is the Act itself, though note the disclaimer at the top of the page. The Latter is an explanation of the History of the Indian Act. There have been some changes to it, however, such as Women no longer lose their Indian status if they marry a male that ISN'T a Status Indian.

      Some people adopt sibling groups or more than once. There are some rare families which adopt some 15-25 kids or so and get featured in national magazines sometimes. They don't tell you most of these people live on the adoption subsidies. A judge might disapprove but these people are regarded as local heroes so most get subesquent adoptions approved easily.
      I'm intrigued about the 15-25 kid adoption. Do you have articles for that? I'd like to read up a bit more.

      On a side note, if Psychic Missile's article is valid, then it's unsurprising that some couple would be deemed a hero for adopting so many kids....
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      Re: 'Mom' and 'Dad' disappear from Californian schools

      Quote Originally posted by Chaotic_void View Post
      One of the ways, in my opinion, that we can attract more people to adopt, in both US of A and Canada, is to reduce the time and paper work. My guess is that some couples don't want to adopt merely because it takes too much time to adopt. There's also that delusion of having the ideal family, which prevents people from adopting kids with problems. I don't care If the Liberals or the Conservatives are responsible for instilling that delusion [I think it's more of a media thing rather than a Political], but if nothing's done about that both sides are responsible.
      As an attorney I'm wary of attorney arranged adoption unless it's by a relative or between people who've had close relationships. Otherwise, we, the attorneys, are just brokers in baby-selling.

      I have only one question: How does one show that they are 'ready to be a parent'?
      In attorney arranged adoption the attorney determines that by accepting the fee. Agenices look at many factors. For instance, someone who had just had a miscarriage or a death of a child is generally seeking only a substitute for the deceased or never-born child and should not be adopting until after a reasonable time.

      I'm intrigued about the 15-25 kid adoption. Do you have articles for that? I'd like to read up a bit more..
      Well, here's one:

      USATODAY.com - 25 adopted boys find a home in one house
      She and her husband, Jim Silcock, 41, have adopted 25 boys — boys ... The news last month about a New Jersey family accused of starving their adopted foster children has focused ...

      http://www.usatoday.com/life/2003-11...ock-boys_x.htm

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      Quote Originally posted by Jackie Fox View Post
      As an attorney I'm wary of attorney arranged adoption unless it's by a relative or between people who've had close relationships. Otherwise, we, the attorneys, are just brokers in baby-selling.
      Two things....
      1)What relevance is this to what I said?
      2)When have babies been considered property to sell?

      In attorney arranged adoption the attorney determines that by accepting the fee. Agenices look at many factors. For instance, someone who had just had a miscarriage or a death of a child is generally seeking only a substitute for the deceased or never-born child and should not be adopting until after a reasonable time.
      -Accepting what 'fee'?
      -What other factors do agencys look at?

      Well, here's one:

      USATODAY.com - 25 adopted boys find a home in one house
      She and her husband, Jim Silcock, 41, have adopted 25 boys — boys ... The news last month about a New Jersey family accused of starving their adopted foster children has focused ...

      http://www.usatoday.com/life/2003-11...ock-boys_x.htm
      Actually, this is Impressive. I'm glad that SOMEONE was willing to take care of the kids that no one 'wanted'.
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