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Originally posted by Geert van den Bos View PostI am the Lord whose name will be revealed during the exodus .... . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Originally posted by Geert van den Bos View PostI am the Lord whose name will be revealed during the exodus ...
the covenant of the pieces or covenant between the parts (Hebrew: ברית בין הבתרים berith bayin hebatrim) was an important event in the biblical story of the patriarch Abraham. In this event God revealed himself to Abraham and made a covenant with him For I gave them the words you gave me and they accepted them." - See John 14: The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselvesThe world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him.
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". . . And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them? . . ." -- Exodus 6:3.. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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". . . And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one." -- Zechariah 14:9.
". . . that God may be all in all." -- 1 Corithians 15:28.
God,s Name means Self-Existent. In the third person for the I AM (Exodus 3:14) meaning the Who-Is.
". . . Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named, . . ." -- Ephesians 3:15.. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Originally posted by Geert van den Bos View PostRashi:. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Originally posted by Geert van den Bos View PostDo you mean that there is no reason for God to be there?. . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV
. . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV
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Originally posted by 37818 View PostNo. Only that which is self existent is the uncaused existence.
I thought reason and cause to be synonyms ...
Originally posted by 37818 View PostUncaused existence needs no God. Any entity contingent on existing is not God.
Mark 15:26,
καὶ ἦν ἡ ἐπιγραφὴ τῆς αἰτίας αὐτοῦ ἐπιγεγραμμένη, Ὁ βασιλεὺς τῶν Ἰουδαίων.
αἰτία
1) cause, reason 2) cause for which one is worthy of punishment, crime 3) charge of crime, accusation
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I tried to look up these two words:
Moreover, if we were truly dealing with revelation of a name that had not previous been known (as Bible criticism tries to maintain), then the root g-l-h (?? Gelah YadaRaahThe Way to God: Interesting article to read.
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Originally posted by Marta View PostI tried to look up these two words:
Moreover, if we were truly dealing with revelation of a name that had not previous been known (as Bible criticism tries to maintain), then the root g-l-h (?? Gelah YadaRaahThe Way to God: Interesting article to read.
The Lord descended in a pillar of cloud and stood at the entrance of the Tent. He called to Aaron and Miriam, and they both went out.
He said, "Please listen to My words. If there be prophets among you, (I) the Lord I will make Myself known to him in a vision ; I will speak to him in a dream.
Not so is My servant Moses; he is faithful throughout My house.
With him I speak mouth to mouth; in a vision and not in riddles, and he beholds the image of the Lord. So why were you not afraid to speak against My servant Moses ?
Rashi: http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_...showrashi=true
(I) the Lord will make Myself known to him in a vision : The Divine Presence of My Name is not revealed to him with distinct clarity, but in a dream or a vision. - [Tanchuma Tzav 13]
in a vision but not in riddles
"marah" = mirrorsight, view, seeing, appearance, vision.
After this Paul wrote, 1 Corinthians 13:12,
βλέπομεν γὰρ ἄρτι δι' ἐσόπτρου ἐν αἰνίγματι, τότε δὲ πρόσωπον πρὸς πρόσωπον: ἄρτι γινώσκω ἐκ μέρους, τότε δὲ ἐπιγνώσομαι καθὼς καὶ ἐπεγνώσθην.
For now we see through a mirror in riddles, then from face to face; now I know in parts, then I shall know even as I am known.Last edited by Geert van den Bos; 05-03-2016, 02:18 AM.
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