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Originally posted by OingoBoingo View PostWow.
NORMWhen the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land. - Bishop Desmond Tutu
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Originally posted by NormATive View PostWhy does that surprise you? Have you never actually listened to someone who does not share your view?
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Originally posted by OingoBoingo View PostNo, I've never redefined words in my head based on the faith position of another person. I've never had a reason to. I find the fact that you do so weird.
NORMWhen the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land. - Bishop Desmond Tutu
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Likewise, when discussing religion with Christians, I keep in mind your particular definition of "salvation."
NORMWhen the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land. - Bishop Desmond Tutu
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Yes, I've talked to Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, and Christians. The words "saved" and "salvation" meant the same while talking to all 3 groups (though they may apply those words to different circumstances they think they are being saved from, or who they believe their salvation is). I don't change the definition of words in my head based on someone else's worldview. Doing so would be confusing and, again, weird. It sounds like something a schizophrenic or a paranoid delusional would do.
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Originally posted by OingoBoingo View PostIt sounds like something a schizophrenic or a paranoid delusional would do.
NORMWhen the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land. - Bishop Desmond Tutu
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Originally posted by OingoBoingo View PostIf I want to know what someone means, I ask them. I don't arrogantly pretend they're speaking some sort of special language, or invent a special language for them in my head.
NORMWhen the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land. - Bishop Desmond Tutu
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