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      Verse that kids go to heaven?

      Quite some time ago in the SB I tried to think up a verse that supported the idea that children go to heave but I couldn't think up the verse. Something about David saying he would see his kid again. But another person in the SB refuted such a verse which sounded fine to me. Except that I didn't think he had refuted the right verse.

      Later I found the verse, and maybe it's the wrong one, same one, dunno. But this verse is used to support that children go to heaven. Or at least that the children of believing parents go to heaven. Perhaps a covenant thing?

      Anyway, 2 Sam 12:33 says:

      But now he is dead. Why should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he will not return to me.

      No time to go over context, but it is an oft used passage. Does this support that we can be sure of salvation of children?
      Personally I do not believe in age of accountability and all that. I don't think you are saved, then lost, then perhaps saved again, etc... Human nature includes sin, so that is from the womb. However, that doesn't mean God has not given grace to them. I don't know.

      So how does this work? What are your views on AoA and what Biblical support can you give?


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      Re: Verse that kids go to heaven?

      Quote Originally posted by Vigilante View Post
      Quite some time ago in the SB I tried to think up a verse that supported the idea that children go to heave but I couldn't think up the verse. Something about David saying he would see his kid again. But another person in the SB refuted such a verse which sounded fine to me. Except that I didn't think he had refuted the right verse.

      Later I found the verse, and maybe it's the wrong one, same one, dunno. But this verse is used to support that children go to heaven. Or at least that the children of believing parents go to heaven. Perhaps a covenant thing?

      Anyway, 2 Sam 12:33 says:

      But now he is dead. Why should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he will not return to me.

      No time to go over context, but it is an oft used passage. Does this support that we can be sure of salvation of children?
      In short, no.

      The sentence finishes on a tragic note. Although the father will die, and be where his son is, in sheol, the son will not come back to the father. Whether they have a future in heaven together is not within the cope of the passage
      So how does this work? What are your views on AoA and what Biblical support can you give?
      I'll be interested to see some replies on that.
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      Re: Verse that kids go to heaven?

      II Samuel 12:33, I Corinthians 7:14 may be of interest to you. Children of a believing parent are considered holy by God, but, when they reach the age when they can believe on their own, they make their own choices. Dr. Bauer makes the appropriate observation, that verse does give evidence for a heaven bound solution. However in the most practical sense, the child will not go to David, for the simple reason that the child is dead. David can go to the dead child, but the dead child, being dead, cannot go to David. Why do we complicate what is so simple in the word?

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