Gary & Rhinestone's Thread on Burial and Resurrection of Christ

[Sparko]

So you don't think that the Sanhedrin would have been offended by Joseph taking the body and burying it in a rock tomb?

did you even read rogue06's post?

[Adrift]

she's not a scholar.

She is. She has a Phd in Archaeology, a BA in History, taught at Tufts for a decade, and holds a chair in the Department of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina where she also teaches as a Professor of Early Judaism. Her work on the subject of the empty tomb completely contradicts Gary and Rhinestone's assertions about the subject as we saw in the previous thread, so I have no idea why they continue to invoke her.

[Cow Poke]

She is. She has a Phd in Archaeology, a BA in History, taught at Tufts for a decade, and holds a chair in the Department of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina where she also teaches as a Professor of Early Judaism. Her work on the subject of the empty tomb completely contradicts Gary and Rhinestone's assertions about the subject as we saw in the previous thread, so I have no idea why they continue to invoke her.

desperation

[Gary]

she's not a scholar.

scholar: a specialist in a particular branch of study.

She is a specialist in archeology, therefore she meets the definition.

[rogue06]

So you don't think that the Sanhedrin would have been offended by Joseph taking the body and burying it in a rock tomb?

Um, no.

[rogue06]

She is. She has a Phd in Archaeology, a BA in History, taught at Tufts for a decade, and holds a chair in the Department of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina where she also teaches as a Professor of Early Judaism. Her work on the subject of the empty tomb completely contradicts Gary and Rhinestone's assertions about the subject as we saw in the previous thread, so I have no idea why they continue to invoke her.

Hoping they can slip it in unnoticed.

[rogue06]

Don't get your undergarments in a bunch.

depends!

You were giggling like a 12 year old when you posted this, weren't you? Weren't you?

[Gary]

A) It was Joseph's tomb to do with as he saw fit.
2) The Sanhedrin probably just wanted the matter to go away, and wouldn't want to raise a stink to keep attention on it.

You seem to suggest that Joseph of Arimathea (hereafter referred to as "Joseph") acted on his own. Here is the problem with that: The Sanhedrin had just condemned Jesus to death for blasphemy. Why would a devout Jew, as the early Gospels make Joseph out to be, defy the ruling governing body of the Jews by giving Jesus an honorable burial, in a rock tomb, among the honored dead of Jerusalem's rich and powerful? By aiding and abetting a cause that the Sanhedrin had labeled as blasphemy, wouldn't Arimathea be at risk of being put to death himself? Yet we never hear of any outrage from the Sanhedrin over this action.

Now, if you say that Arimathea was acting on behalf of the Sanhedrin, you are stuck with the original problem: Why wasn't the Sanhedrin prepared for the death of Jesus? Why didn't they have a dirt trench/grave dug and ready? Why scramble at the last minute to find an unused rock tomb nearby? This story makes the Sanhedrin out to be very disorganized and sloppy, which we know from other historical data, they were not.

[Sparko]

She is. She has a Phd in Archaeology, a BA in History, taught at Tufts for a decade, and holds a chair in the Department of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina where she also teaches as a Professor of Early Judaism. Her work on the subject of the empty tomb completely contradicts Gary and Rhinestone's assertions about the subject as we saw in the previous thread, so I have no idea why they continue to invoke her.

Because it is their M.O.

Ignore everything, and repeat. When people stop responding, make a stealth claim at victory because nobody can defeat what you repeated for the 1000th time (which they already did, but just got tired of repeating themselves)

They have done it in each and every thread.

[Cow Poke]

You seem to suggest that Joseph of Arimathea (hereafter referred to as "Joseph") acted on his own. Here is the problem with that: The Sanhedrin had just condemned Jesus to death for blasphemy. Why would a devout Jew, as the early Gospels make Joseph out to be, defy the ruling governing body of the Jews by giving Jesus an honorable burial, in a rock tomb, among the honored dead of Jerusalem's rich and powerful? By aiding and abetting a cause that the Sanhedrin had labeled as blasphemy, wouldn't Arimathea be at risk of being put to death himself? Yet we never hear of any outrage from the Sanhedrin over this action.

Well, to use your own words, 'here's the problem with that'. You got WAY too much assumin' goin' on in your little manufactured scenario.

Now, if you say that Arimathea

You can't even keep your own story straight... "(hereafter referred to as "Joseph")"

was acting on behalf of the Sanhedrin, you are stuck with the original problem:

I'm not stuck with ANY problem - the Jews wanted the issue to go away - be done - they didn't want to draw any more attention than they had to.

Why wasn't the Sanhedrin prepared for the death of Jesus? Why didn't they have a dirt trench/grave dug and ready? Why scramble at the last minute to find an unused rock tomb nearby?

How do you know that Joseph (hereafter referred to as "Joseph" ) didn't tell his buddies -- IF indeed he was part of the vote -- "don't worry, I'll take care of this - I'll put him in my rock tomb, and nobody will ever hear from him again?" (I can play the assumin' game, too!)

This story makes the Sanhedrin out to be very disorganized and sloppy, which we know from other historical data, they were not.

Well, yeah, the way you twist it, with all the assumin' you got goin' on....

[Gary]

In another thread I responded to the claim that the Jewish authorities would have left the body on the cross and forbade burying it and was subsequently asked if I would also post what I wrote here so I'm re-posting it:

Who on this thread has claimed that Jesus was not buried?

The issue at hand is why the Sanhedrin would bury Jesus in a rich man's tomb instead of the customary dirt trench/grave.

[Sparko]

Who on this thread has claimed that Jesus was not buried?

The issue at hand is why the Sanhedrin would bury Jesus in a rich man's tomb instead of the customary dirt trench/grave.

1. Rhinestone kept on about how they did not bury executed criminals but would let the birds eat the bodies. He had an entire plagiarized page of sources on this.
2. You didn't actually read what Rogue06 posted did you, just skimmed it? Go back and read it.

[Gary]

Well, to use your own words, 'here's the problem with that'. You got WAY too much assumin' goin' on in your little manufactured scenario.



You can't even keep your own story straight... "(hereafter referred to as "Joseph")"



I'm not stuck with ANY problem - the Jews wanted the issue to go away - be done - they didn't want to draw any more attention than they had to.



How do you know that Joseph (hereafter referred to as "Joseph" ) didn't tell his buddies -- IF indeed he was part of the vote -- "don't worry, I'll take care of this - I'll put him in my rock tomb, and nobody will ever hear from him again?" (I can play the assumin' game, too!)



Well, yeah, the way you twist it, with all the assumin' you got goin' on....

"the Jews wanted the issue to go away - be done - they didn't want to draw any more attention than they had to."

If this is true, then why go to Pilate to ask for guards to be stationed around the tomb? Obviously, if this story is true, they did care about what happened to the body. Once again: why put the body of the trouble-making Galilean peasant in a rock tomb and not in a hole in the ground as was the usual Jewish custom for persons of Jesus' class?

[Cow Poke]

Who on this thread has claimed that Jesus was not buried?

The issue at hand is why the Sanhedrin would bury Jesus in a rich man's tomb instead of the customary dirt trench/grave.

There you go again.

The Sanhedrin didn't bury Jesus in a rich man's tomb. The rich man did.

[Cow Poke]

You were giggling like a 12 year old when you posted this, weren't you? Weren't you?

weren't you?