Replicants

[Carrikature]

how would you know? maybe it is just a matter of a few genes to make someone compliant and obedient slaves.

I know because I have a better understanding of how the brain and body works than that. It's a lot more complex than just turning on or off a handful of genes. There's a reason that autism is a grouping of symptoms, after all.

That said, 'amount of change' isn't limited to genetic factors. A compliant and obedient hominid is far enough from humans to be considered separate. Which, in fact, would be a good thing from an ethical standpoint.

[Carrikature]

I've seen way too many scifi shows for this to be a good thing........

IMO, enough sci-fi exposure coupled with decent understanding of modern science gives a pretty good picture of where we're probably headed. The sci-fi that's way off is getting easier to spot.

[Sparko]

I know because I have a better understanding of how the brain and body works than that. It's a lot more complex than just turning on or off a handful of genes. There's a reason that autism is a grouping of symptoms, after all.

That said, 'amount of change' isn't limited to genetic factors. A compliant and obedient hominid is far enough from humans to be considered separate. Which, in fact, would be a good thing from an ethical standpoint.

So you are saying that a obedient and compliant child is not human?

And obedient slaves throughout time were not human either?

RACIST!!!! Hang him!!!!



(I have been learning from the liberals )

[Sparko]

IMO, enough sci-fi exposure coupled with decent understanding of modern science gives a pretty good picture of where we're probably headed. The sci-fi that's way off is getting easier to spot.

Growing a body without a brain and then transplanting a dying person's brain into his brainless clone. Or growing a mindless clone and then transferring your mind into that new body.

Dun, dun, DUNNNN!




PS - I want one of those neat replicant snakes in Blade Runner.

[Wally]

(I have been learning from the liberals )

No, you really haven't.

[Sparko]

No, you really haven't.

I still have a bit to go. But I is learnitating gud.

1. Isolate a phrase or two in the opponent's words.
2. Exaggerate it out of context and throw it in their face and accuse them of being a horrible bigot or racist to shame them into submission.
3. Gloat.

Did I miss anything?

[Wally]

I still have a bit to go. But I is learnitating gud.

1. Isolate a phrase or two in the opponent's words.
2. Exaggerate it out of context and throw it in their face and accuse them of being a horrible bigot or racist to shame them into submission.
3. Gloat.

Did I miss anything?

Look up "projection".

By the way you suffer from it.

[Sparko]

Look up "projection".

By the way you suffer from it.

Nicely done. I will learn that trick for next time. Thanks you sensei.

[Carrikature]

So you are saying that a obedient and compliant child is not human?

And obedient slaves throughout time were not human either?

RACIST!!!! Hang him!!!!



(I have been learning from the liberals )

I'm saying those examples don't count as 'obedient and compliant' in the manner you've been using it. The most obedient child or slave has never dropped to the level of 'no free will'. Temper tantrums and runaway slaves are things for a reason.

[Carrikature]

Growing a body without a brain and then transplanting a dying person's brain into his brainless clone. Or growing a mindless clone and then transferring your mind into that new body.

Dun, dun, DUNNNN!

That's one of those things I'm pretty sure doesn't work that way. It might be possible to upload your mind, eventually. Transferring it to another human body would require all of the connections to be identical. However, David Weber uses the concept of a Personality Integrated Cybernetic Avatar (PICA) where you can basically transfer yourself into various vehicles, including a droid version of a human.

PS - I want one of those neat replicant snakes in Blade Runner.

I've never seen it.

[Sparko]

That's one of those things I'm pretty sure doesn't work that way. It might be possible to upload your mind, eventually. Transferring it to another human body would require all of the connections to be identical. However, David Weber uses the concept of a Personality Integrated Cybernetic Avatar (PICA) where you can basically transfer yourself into various vehicles, including a droid version of a human.

well since the mind is at least physical, the new brain would have to have all of the exact same neural connections as the old one in order for it to contain the mind without being a different mind.

I've never seen it.

You should check it out. very 1980's but also a good sci-fi "makes you think" type of story. It was based on Philip K Dick's "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep"

Usually PKD film adaptations are pretty good sci-fi, I have found.

[Carrikature]

well since the mind is at least physical, the new brain would have to have all of the exact same neural connections as the old one in order for it to contain the mind without being a different mind.

Yeah, I'm not sure about that part. I would think it'd be possible to have more connections as long as you have the same connections. Think of it like a minimum recommended hardware ability. If you don't meet that, you have problems. Anything extra is just that. There are a lot of questions we have to answer before we could know for sure, though.

You should check it out. very 1980's but also a good sci-fi "makes you think" type of story. It was based on Philip K Dick's "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep"

Usually PKD film adaptations are pretty good sci-fi, I have found.

It's one of those movies I would have watched a long time ago if it didn't mean sitting down and purposefully watching something. I'm not very good at that.

[Juvenal]

So you are saying that a obedient and compliant child is not human?

Creative camouflage designed to keep them safe from predation.

[Juvenal]

I've never seen it.

Was the thread title wasted on you?

[Carrikature]

Was the thread title wasted on you?

Not at all.