So, how long will these dumb atheists be making the "name mistake"?

**jpholding** · February 23rd 2012, 04:30 PM

YT user "TruthSurge" was a victim 1 week ago. (Too obscene to reprint.)

4 years
7 months
13 days out of date!

**jpholding** · April 21st 2012, 11:02 AM

Found this by YT user ZOGCorp from sometime in March (I'll just say the 15th):

J.P. Holding's real name is Robert Turkel. He is ashamed of his Sephardic Jewish ancestry. He is a self-hating Jew.

Actually, half of my ancestors on that count came from Austria. That's not Sephardic.

4 years
8 months
12 days out of date!

**KingsGambit** · April 21st 2012, 11:39 AM

So is the ZOGCorp some sort of armchair psychoanalysis firm?

**Manwë Súlimo** · April 21st 2012, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by jpholding

Found this by YT user ZOGCorp from sometime in March (I'll just say the 15th):

Actually, half of my ancestors on that count came from Austria. That's not Sephardic.

4 years
8 months
12 days out of date!

Austria, huh? JUST LIKE HITLER! Herr Turkel!

**Rational Gaze** · April 21st 2012, 06:48 PM

Originally posted by Manwë Súlimo

Austria, huh? JUST LIKE HITLER! Herr Turkel!

I think you mean... just like AHNULD!

**jpholding** · May 29th 2012, 01:55 PM

ukchristan28 reports the latest victim -- CheekyVimto08:

Oh dear, it looks like CheekyVimto08 has fallen for the "I know J.P Holding's real name" trap. I posted J.P's warning about Lazy Agnostic. CheekyVimto08 told me off, saying how low I had stooped and that he supposes I will re-translate some Bible passage to justify my bad behaviour in posting the warning. Then he said this:

"I know J.P Holding's real name, but I'm not posting it on youtube because that's not right. You're supposed to have an ontological foundation for morality that the rest of us don't."

4 years
10 months
25 days out of date!

That means we have now hit close enough for the "five years" choice to be valid.

**jpholding** · May 31st 2012, 12:55 PM

YT user dingodavid is the latest.

4 years
10 months
27 days out of date!

**LilPunkishOfTerror** · June 1st 2012, 01:21 AM

Let's face it, you'll be doing this in fifty years' time, Mr Holding.

**jpholding** · June 1st 2012, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by LilPunkishOfTerror

Let's face it, you'll be doing this in fifty years' time, Mr Holding.

Not as unlikely as some may think. The Holdings are known to live into their 80s and 90s.

**jpholding** · June 3rd 2012, 08:38 AM

Amazon dingbat Gregory Hodges is the latest suckah!

4 years
11 months out of date!

**TolkienFan** · July 17th 2012, 08:39 AM

It's been a while, but troll Lucretius breaks the five-year barrier:

Originally posted by Lucretius

Holding has no disciples? Ohhh, that's right--maybe if I rephrase it. How about Robert Turkel's disciples?

**jpholding** · July 17th 2012, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by TolkienFan

It's been a while, but troll Lucretius breaks the five-year barrier:

Yep. For the complete record:

5 years
13 days

**jpholding** · July 21st 2012, 09:16 AM

YT user TaylorX04, who pretends to be a scholar but isn't, is the latest:

I'm on the list of the Great Turkel? I can hardly wait. ;-)
TaylorX04 in reply to tektontv (Show the comment) 11 hours ago

5 years
18 days out of date!

**jpholding** · July 26th 2012, 03:07 PM

http://tektonforge.blogspot.com/2012...till-same.html

Just posted this on the Forge as an observance.

5 Years Later: The Name Game is Still the Same

Just over five years ago, I made a legal change to my name and became, officially, James Patrick Holding. But some thicker heads still haven't got the news.

At bottom of this post, you'll find a link to a TWeb thread I started shortly after he change to keep track of how long the thick heads didn't get the news. I attached a poll asking how long people thought it would go on with them continuing to use my former name. At the time, the options of five and ten years seemed like a bad joke. Five years later, it isn't: There are thick heads who still haven't got the news, and the latest (as of this post) is a YouTube pseudo-scholar designated TaylorX04, just a few days ago. And the hits just keep on comin'.

Why do the thick heads persist? For a time you could probably lay the blame, ironically, on Farrell "Forgotten" Till, whose Skeptical Review website featured an article about me in which he did the name rant (but failed to update it after I made the legal change). Suckers everywhere -- whether Skeptics or putative Christians -- found this high in search engine rankings and took it at face value and as the last word. How ironic that Farrell's long-ago obsession with the issue came back with a vengeance upon the very people he was showing off for.

Of late, it appears Farrell's website has gone off the air -- and no one seems to care. I don't know if it'll ever be back, but as long as it is off, there will probably be less chance that the "ha ha, I know what your real name is" crowd will continue to make their mark in that thread.

Which is sort of a shame -- because that particular complaint always has been an easy way to mark off the ignorant and the uncritical who have nothing actually worthwhile to say.