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  • Originally posted by JimL View Post
    I think Marx was talking about you and your ilk lilpix, the oppresser, the heartless, the soulless. Marx, though he wasn't religious himself, actually thought very highly of Jesus and early Christian philosophy. To bad you don't.
    Wow!!!! Citation, please.

    "You must, therefore, confess that by "individual" you mean no other person than the bourgeois, than the middle-class owner of property. This person must indeed, be swept out of the way, and made impossible". (Published by Progress Publishers, Moscow, 1973 edition, page 66)
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    • Originally posted by JimL View Post
      I think Marx was talking about you and your ilk lilpix, the oppresser, the heartless, the soulless. Marx, though he wasn't religious himself, actually thought very highly of Jesus and early Christian philosophy. To bad you don't.


      That's dang funny Jimmy that you can judge me and know all about me without ever knowning a thing. Here, let me help you to show how 'heartless and soulless' I actually am:

      - I donated hundreds of dollars in little girls clothing to new mothers who couldn't afford to buy their new babies cloths.
      - I helped out a food bank by donating money and time to it.
      - I helped out a young single mother, in her job hunting, by watching her kids for her so she could do job interviews.
      - I helped out a local soup kitchen.
      - I invited over young airmen, with no other place to go, for the holidays so they wouldn't be on their own during the holidays.

      These are just the things I've done over the past year, to help those who are less fortunate or to just be a caring human being. This isn't even getting into the stuff I was doing years ago or in my teen years (when I visited/worked in homeless shelters, battered women shelters, and hospitals, just to name a few). Now when you're done wiping the egg off your face, name the stuff you've done to help out your fellow humans beyond whining about how the government should steal money from one group of people to give it to another group of people. Karl Marx, was a drunk that ended up giving people ideas about a system, that has killed and oppressed millions. Jesus, on the other hand, has encouraged people to feed, cloth, and shelter the poor, sick, and dying. Marx hated religion and wanted to destroy it Jimmy, but do keep trying and who knows, maybe you'll come up with new ways to steal money from people and give it to other people.
      "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
      GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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      • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
        Ah, those wise old socialists!

        yup, let this be a lesson, never be duped into trading with capitalists.
        To say that crony capitalism is not true/free market capitalism, is like saying a grand slam is not true baseball, or like saying scoring a touchdown is not true American football ...Stefan Mykhaylo D

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        • Originally posted by jordanriver View Post
          yup, let this be a lesson, never be duped into trading with capitalists.
          So, these brilliant socialists are no better than... wow. Yeah, sign me up!
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • Originally posted by jordanriver View Post
            yup, let this be a lesson, never be duped into trading with capitalists.


            Yep, no matter what, whenever JR's beloved system fails and ends up killing people, BLAME CAPITALIST! because in JR fantasy land, the only reason his system is a total and complete failure, that has killed millions and violated the rights or hundreds of millions, it is because those evil capitalist did it. No matter what, something else is response for the total failure that his beloved system produces.
            "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
            GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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            • Originally posted by jordanriver View Post
              bringing you up to date, it was the MARKET PRICE of oil.

              They were self sufficient in food till they got the oil bug and decided to trade and put all their land to oil production.
              So it's the fault of others that their dear leaders didn't bother to use their brains and put their eggs in one basket, it's all the fault of free markets that the bureaucrats failed. No matter what, in JR fantasy land, BLAME FREE MARKETS WHEN SOCIOLOGIST END UP FAILING (as it always does)!
              "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
              GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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              • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                So, these brilliant socialists are no better than... wow. Yeah, sign me up!
                You're forgetting how it works in JR Fantasy LandTM:

                When socialists fail (as it always does) blame free markets for the failure of the bureaucrats to actually know what they are doing.
                When free markets fail (which they do, but they often bounce back) blame it on free markets.

                No matter what, it is always the fault of free markets.
                "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                • Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post


                  Yep, no matter what, whenever JR's beloved system fails and ends up killing people, BLAME CAPITALIST! because in JR fantasy land, the only reason his system is a total and complete failure, that has killed millions and violated the rights or hundreds of millions, it is because those evil capitalist did it. No matter what, something else is response for the total failure that his beloved system produces.
                  you need to reeducate the rest of the world that thinks USA Capitalism is the biggest shock and awe machine EVER, and that its not just because of OIL but merely a just war on terror
                  To say that crony capitalism is not true/free market capitalism, is like saying a grand slam is not true baseball, or like saying scoring a touchdown is not true American football ...Stefan Mykhaylo D

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                  • Originally posted by jordanriver View Post
                    you need to reeducate the rest of the world that thinks USA Capitalism is the biggest shock and awe machine EVER, and that its not just because of OIL but merely a just war on terror
                    I thought the Free Markets were a British innovation, but do keep trying. When you're done blaming free markets for all the ills of the world; perhaps you can explain how free markets seem to bounce back from set backs, while socialist do not.
                    "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                    GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                    • Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
                      I thought the Free Markets were a British innovation, but do keep trying. When you're done blaming free markets for all the ills of the world; perhaps you can explain how free markets seem to bounce back from set backs, while socialist do not.
                      social Darwinism works for you I guess, weeds out the weak.

                      After the weak died off from dust pneumonia and babies died in the arms of their mothers during Dust Bowl, America was stronger when the market bounced back.
                      To say that crony capitalism is not true/free market capitalism, is like saying a grand slam is not true baseball, or like saying scoring a touchdown is not true American football ...Stefan Mykhaylo D

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                      • Originally posted by jordanriver View Post
                        social Darwinism works for you I guess, weeds out the weak.

                        After the weak died off from dust pneumonia and babies died in the arms of their mothers during Dust Bowl, America was stronger when the market bounced back.
                        You really need to drop the Dust Bowl as an argument. It makes you look even sillier than you are. It's like you read in "Collectivism for Dummies" that that was a good argument. It's not. It's just dumb.
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • Originally posted by jordanriver View Post
                          Marxism is a classless society of the proletariat (workers) control.

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                          Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                          And only a moron thinks such a system can actually work.

                          workers are discovering at a small scale it can work, and they don't need an owner,

                          its a start of worker awakening.
                          To say that crony capitalism is not true/free market capitalism, is like saying a grand slam is not true baseball, or like saying scoring a touchdown is not true American football ...Stefan Mykhaylo D

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                          • Originally posted by jordanriver View Post
                            social Darwinism works for you I guess, weeds out the weak.

                            After the weak died off from dust pneumonia and babies died in the arms of their mothers during Dust Bowl, America was stronger when the market bounced back.
                            That's pretty rich, coming from somebody defending a country that currently is having premature and sick babies dying due to lack of power at hospitals.
                            "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                            GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                            • Originally posted by jordanriver View Post
                              and again you are just like little pixie , making it look like I am atheist, I am a born again Christian,
                              Yet, rather than claim this in your faith tag, you wave the banner of collectivism - makes you look like you're ashamed to be called a Christian.
                              The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                              • Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                                You really need to drop the Dust Bowl as an argument. It makes you look even sillier than you are. It's like you read in "Collectivism for Dummies" that that was a good argument. It's not. It's just dumb.
                                Considering that sick babies are currently dying in the country he's trying to defend, the irony is so thick, you could cut it with a knife.
                                "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                                GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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