Darwinists converting to creationism who aren't christian?

[Objectitron]

Does anyone know of any darwinist or evolutionist who became a creationist, but is not a christian?

[Alucard]

That's a bit of a stretch.

[FreezBee]

Does anyone know of any darwinist or evolutionist who became a creationist, but is not a christian?

How do you define a 'creationist'?

- FreezBee

[Objectitron]

How do you define a 'creationist'?

- FreezBee

I guess there are many definitions and sects of creationists: Young Earth, Old Earth, and Special Creationists for example. All adhering to the belief that God created everything including different species and then let evolution take over

I guess what I am asking is are there actually scientists who consider themselves strict darwin evolutionists who after waying the evidence have changed their mind? I'm not talking about scientists who have converted to Intelligent Design.

I haven't heard of any after doing some research. I guess the biggest reason is they consider, as do I, that creationism is not scientific and cannot be falsified.

[FreezBee]

I guess what I am asking is are there actually scientists who consider themselves strict darwin evolutionists who after waying the evidence have changed their mind? I'm not talking about scientists who have converted to Intelligent Design.

That was, what I was asking about

Then I know of none-

I haven't heard of any after doing some research. I guess the biggest reason is they consider, as do I, that creationism is not scientific and cannot be falsified.

- FreezBee

[Jnthn]

Islam has a burgeoning interest in Intelligent Design and its own flavour of creationism.

J

[FreezBee]

Islam has a burgeoning interest in Intelligent Design and its own flavour of creationism.

Yes, maybe Osama bin Laden should be given 50% of the school time

- FreezBee

[Jnthn]

Yes, maybe Osama bin Laden should be given 50% of the school time

- FreezBee

This simple sentence speaks volumes on your prejudices, let alone your ability to stay on topic.

Bravo.

J

[FreezBee]

This simple sentence speaks volumes on your prejudices, let alone your ability to stay on topic.

Bravo.

Oh, you are welcome


Anyway, can you mention any Darwinists that have turned Muslim?

- FreezBee

[kuboes1831]

I am a biblical and scientific Creationist but some call me a Darwinist

[oxmixmudd]

Does anyone know of any darwinist or evolutionist who became a creationist, but is not a christian?

I would think that if one became convinced the Biblical account of creation is superficially true through scientific argument (6 days/6000 years), one would almost simultaneously have to regard the Bible as absolutely a revelation from God - which would in almost all cases result in conversion to Christianity - or perhaps conservative or orthodox Judaism.


Jim

[Ishida]

Not-a-one. Maybe I should look it up?

[Vertetuesi]

Oh, you are welcome


Anyway, can you mention any Darwinists that have turned Muslim?

- FreezBee

No, and I smile as I type this. I believe it was no less than William Paley writing on the Evidences for Christianity who noted that he'd never heard of a contemporary 'infidel' (i.e. proto-Darwinist) becoming a Mohammedan.

However, it may have happened of late, just that I don't know about it.

[Calminian]

Does anyone know of any darwinist or evolutionist who became a creationist, but is not a christian?

Antony Flew converted to deism. He was one of the worlds foremost atheistic philosophers, but finally, as he got older and wiser, could no longer believe that this world could come about apart from a supernatural God of some sort. So he converted to deism.

[GKC_fan]

Does anyone know of any darwinist or evolutionist who became a creationist, but is not a christian?

Hi Objectitron,

I take it you mean professional scientists/philosophers. A very famous one was Cambridge astronomer Sir Fred Hoyle. Hoyle - whom many (most?) astronomers agree should really have been awarded the Nobel Prize - rejected an evolutionary origin for life given the huge statistical and scientific odds against it, but he didn't want to give up atheism, so he came up with the theory of "directed panspermia", which posits that life on Earth was seeded by some alien life/civilization that lives somewhere else in the universe. (Of course this begs the question of how that lifeform evolved, but anyway... ;-> )

A professional philosopher who was a non-theist but who was also scathingly critical of Darwinism - because of its many illogical and contra-evidentiary assertions - was the late Dr. David Stove, author of the brilliant book Darwinian Fairytales. You can read some excerpts of his book at these links: So You Think You Are a Darwinian? and A New Religion. All sample articles, including some responses to Dr. Stove, are at the Royal institute of Philosophy site.

If by "creationist" you mean "biblical creationist" then "creationist, but is not a Christian" seems to me to be unlikely on the face of it as a final result, both logically and given the debates and information out there these days. I.e., there are all the other biblical claims one would be under intellectual pressure to accept once one accepted the Genesis creation account.

So I think in the long-run most who accept Genesis, as opposed to just religion-neutral Intelligent Design - would most likely end up becoming full-fledged Christians. But I'm sure there are a goodly number who, like C.S. Lewis at one point and possibly like Prof. Flew, are currently 'on the way' to full belief but at this time have only gotten as far as deism or theism.

Thanks for the interesting question!

Cheers!
GKC_fan