Did God create logic? Or is logic further evidence of God’s existence?

[Meh Gerbil]

Ohhhkay.

[Sparko]

Can you come up with something God didn't create?

logic.

[seer]

logic.

That is because God is logic, as much as He is love, just or Holy.

[Christianbookworm]

logic.

Logic reminds me of Logos. The Word was with God and the Word was God. Jesus would be the ultimate master of logic. He is wisdom and logic. No one can out smart Him!

[Sparko]

Logic reminds me of Logos. The Word was with God and the Word was God. Jesus would be the ultimate master of logic. He is wisdom and logic. No one can out smart Him!

The word logic comes from the greek word logos.

[Sparko]

fyi
http://philosophy.hku.hk/think/logic/whatislogic.php

[Carrikature]

Please provide some links. I've never heard any such claim for all that you've portrayed it as 'common'.

[firstfloor]

[Christianbookworm]

How can God have created logic? Doesn't wisdom use logic?

[shunyadragon]

Please provide some links. I've never heard any such claim for all that you've portrayed it as 'common'.

Source: http://tasc-creationscience.org/content/foundation-logic-nature-god

The Foundation of Logic in the Nature of God

© Copyright Original Source

[shunyadragon]

- See more at: http://www.thinkchristianly.org/is-g....kDXpUBzR.dpuf

[Sparko]

- See more at: http://www.thinkchristianly.org/is-g....kDXpUBzR.dpuf

yeah.. he is saying not that God created logic, but that logic is part of God's nature, like love and honesty. It is a description of how logic is not a thing to be created. Saying God is logical, means he is rational, makes sense, is consistent. It is not saying God created some "laws" called logic.

Saying God created logic is like saying God created honesty. Honesty isn't a THING. It is a description of a characteristic that God embodies. It has always existed because God has always existed. He didn't create it. There wasn't some time where God wasn't honest. And there wasn't a time where God wasn't a logical, rational being.

[Meh Gerbil]

How can God have created logic? Doesn't wisdom use logic?

I think offering theories about what God created or didn't create in eternity past is an exercise in futility.

When I claim God created logic I mean "the framework of rational thought in which man's minds operate".
This would be similar to His creation of time which would be "the framework of space that our physical bodies require."

The point of contention with my Christian brethren here is that I don't believe God is any more beholden to logic (man's mind framework) than he is to space/time (man's physical framework).

Seer and other assorted hell bound heretics want to elevate logic to the level of love and make it an eternal thingy. What they miss is that the love we have available to us is probably 'love lite', a downgrade of love that is accessible (and entirely adequate) to mankind. We have the 'Love for Dummies' version and we are probably incapable of understanding love the way the Trinity understands and experiences love. Never fear, what we have is more than enough.

If you need to know anything else just ask me.
Everyone else here will lead you astray.

[Sparko]

I think offering theories about what God created or didn't create in eternity past is an exercise in futility.

When I claim God created logic I mean "the framework of rational thought in which man's minds operate".
This would be similar to His creation of time which would be "the framework of space that our physical bodies require."

The point of contention with my Christian brethren here is that I don't believe God is any more beholden to logic (man's mind framework) than he is to space/time (man's physical framework).

Seer and other assorted hell bound heretics want to elevate logic to the level of love and make it an eternal thingy. What they miss is that the love we have available to us is probably 'love lite', a downgrade of love that is accessible (and entirely adequate) to mankind. We have the 'Love for Dummies' version and we are probably incapable of understanding love the way the Trinity understands and experiences love. Never fear, what we have is more than enough.

If you need to know anything else just ask me.
Everyone else here will lead you astray.

So if God made us irrational, does that mean that logic wouldn't still exist? That if there were one apple sitting on a table and another were added, that there would not then be two apples? Or that the apple could not be a cow at the same time? Do things like that require humans to even exist? No. Logic is independent of our minds or even our existence.

Can there be a God and no God at the same time and in the same way? No. Therefore Logic is not something God made up. it is something that IS. As long as God has existed, so has logic.

[Meh Gerbil]

So if God made us irrational, does that mean that logic wouldn't still exist? That if there were one apple sitting on a table and another were added, that there would not then be two apples? Or that the apple could not be a cow at the same time? Do things like that require humans to even exist? No. Logic is independent of our minds or even our existence.

Can a human being exist with no space?
Nope.

Can God exist without space?
Yes.

God isn't limited by the physical framework He built for us.
All I'm claiming here is that He also isn't limited by the mental framework He built for us.

Just as Jesus Christ stepped into time/space and limited His divinity to communicate with us so also did He step into the logical/rational framework and limited His divinity to communicate with us. It is nearly effortless to illustrate this: All logical arguments (as we understand them) are dependent upon time. The classic logical syllogism is a couple of premises followed by a conclusion - without time (a sequence) the fundamental laws of logic wouldn't even apply.