USA people to die sooner than before?

[Truthseeker]

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Since the end of the Civil War until the late 20th century, lifespan increased rapidly in the UnitedStates, a tremendous public health triumph brought about by a more dependable food supply, improved sanitation, and advances in medical care. In 1850, life expectancy among whites was an estimated 38 years for men and 40 years for women. These numbers nearly doubled by 1980, to 71 years for men and 78 years for women. With the start of the obesity epidemic in the late 1970s, this trend began to slow, leading some to predict that life expectancy would decline in the United States by the mid-21st century.

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Let's discuss the issue as though as the USA is indeed going to experience a big drop in longevity for many years to come.

The USFG is surely to blame at least in part, considering how involved it has been since the 1960s in the health of the nation's people. If you disagree, please explain why (please do note that I am not putting all the blame on the USFG).

Vitamin D deficiencies may be to blame. Let's assume so, unless you have good reasons why not.

I do not agree with the JAMA editorial that is quoted above regarding more government action. The USFG has certainly not prevented the diabetic epidemic and may have worsened it.

This came in today: "F.D.A. finishes food labels for how we eat now" Sabrina Tavernise, May 20, 2016, The New York Times
In the midst of the obesity epidemic, is it OK to daily eat one pint of ice cream now?

[Terraceth]

In 1850, life expectancy among whites was an estimated 38 years for men and 40 years for women

This seems very low. Is this including deaths of infants? Because infant mortality rates can skew the numbers considerably.

[Raphael]

This is what I don't get. you're very anti-governmetn involvement in anything, and yet you're blaming the US government for not doing enough to make sure people get enough exercise and sunshine and to stop eating junk food?

[Carrikature]

Let's discuss the issue as though as the USA is indeed going to experience a big drop in longevity for many years to come.

A decline is not necessarily a 'big drop'.

The USFG is surely to blame at least in part, considering how involved it has been since the 1960s in the health of the nation's people. If you disagree, please explain why (please do note that I am not putting all the blame on the USFG).

The USFG doesn't make people eat like crap and sit on the couch watching TV.

Vitamin D deficiencies may be to blame. Let's assume so, unless you have good reasons why not.

Let's not assume anything unless you can actually prove this is an issue. Vitamin D is something we put into a lot of foods. Cereal and milk are two good examples.

The USFG has certainly not prevented the diabetic epidemic and may have worsened it.

Again, backup your claims.

This came in today: "F.D.A. finishes food labels for how we eat now" Sabrina Tavernise, May 20, 2016, The New York Times
In the midst of the obesity epidemic, is it OK to daily eat one pint of ice cream now?

You made this part up. A label change doesn't tell you how much of anything to eat.

[Carrikature]

This seems very low. Is this including deaths of infants? Because infant mortality rates can skew the numbers considerably.

Mortality rate claims should always be suspect unless they're provided with information regarding how they were calculated. There's no consistent method.

[Truthseeker]

Let's not assume anything unless you can actually prove this is an issue. Vitamin D is something we put into a lot of foods. Cereal and milk are two good examples.

Why don't you do the research yourself? Why bother with challenging someone who you think makes things up?

Again, backup your claims.

What, the epidemic? Or the USFG made things worse? Or both?

You made this part up. A label change doesn't tell you how much of anything to eat.

From the document that was quoted in my OP there is this line: "A single ice cream serving is two-thirds of a cup — compared with the current half cup."

[Truthseeker]

This is what I don't get. you're very anti-governmetn involvement in anything, and yet you're blaming the US government for not doing enough to make sure people get enough exercise and sunshine and to stop eating junk food?

I'm puzzled how to answer your question. It seems as though you think I want the government to force us to eat wholesome food, get sunlight, exercise, etc.

People tend to trust the government's advice. A question to discuss here is whether the USFG (e.g., the FDA) is duping us so as to benefit Big Food.

[shunyadragon]

Let's discuss the issue as though as the USA is indeed going to experience a big drop in longevity for many years to come.

I do not think we can '. . . discuss the issue as though as the USA is indeed going to experience a big drop in longevity for many years to come.' based on this article nor the other evidence of health and longevity in the USA.

Nonetheless we are experiencing a health crisis involving diet, exercise, health, and in particular health costs due to poor physical health and obesity. The other issue is the aging of the 'Baby Boomers,' which mostly have poor diets.

The USFG is surely to blame at least in part, considering how involved it has been since the 1960s in the health of the nation's people. If you disagree, please explain why (please do note that I am not putting all the blame on the USFG).

Sounds like your putting the USFG head on the block from my perspective, which is meaningless. The USFG cannot hold up the earth anymore than Atlas can.

Vitamin D deficiencies may be to blame. Let's assume so, unless you have good reasons why not.

I seriously doubt it. It is to simplistic, especially with too many other factors that impact the health and longevity.

I do not agree with the JAMA editorial that is quoted above regarding more government action. The USFG has certainly not prevented the diabetic epidemic and may have worsened it.

I doubt USFG can do much about diabetic epidemic any more that Atlas can hold up the Earth. The obesity epidemic is caused by diets high in High Glycemic Carbohydrates (HGC), from potato chips, Wonder Withe Bread, tortilla chips, to sugar, and baked potatoes. HGC constitutes up to 2/3rds of the diet of many Americans. It represents the cocaine of our traditional 'Wonder Bread' American diet which dominates the world.

In the midst of the obesity epidemic, is it OK to daily eat one pint of ice cream now?

Your 'pint' is guilt free and good for you, as long it is not quarts, gallons, or many pints on a daily basis.

[Carrikature]

Why don't you do the research yourself? Why bother with challenging someone who you think makes things up?

That's not how this works. You don't get to make an assumption and then tell me I have to prove you wrong. I happen to know your nonsense is false.

What, the epidemic? Or the USFG made things worse? Or both?

That the federal government had any hand in making things worse.

From the document that was quoted in my OP there is this line: "A single ice cream serving is two-thirds of a cup — compared with the current half cup."

Which has what, exactly, to do with how much it's ok to eat in a day? Serving sizes are pretty arbitrary. They're useful only because they give you a multiplier for all the other numbers in the label.

[Carrikature]

I'm puzzled how to answer your question. It seems as though you think I want the government to force us to eat wholesome food, get sunlight, exercise, etc.

People tend to trust the government's advice. A question to discuss here is whether the USFG (e.g., the FDA) is duping us so as to benefit Big Food.

Big Food, is it? You really are something else.

[Truthseeker]

One thing at a time, Carrikature. Many school lunches follow federal guidelines, and have done so for years now. Well?

[Leonhard]

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Vitamin D deficiencies may be to blame. Let's assume so, unless you have good reasons why not.

I'm not quite sure I follow the logic here. Why should we assume this, unless we have good reasons otherwise? Do we have any reasons to think this in the first place?