Politics and Population...

[themuzicman]

You could fit everyone on the planet inside the state of Alaska (1/3 yard each.)

Plus, population will peak and begin to decline, soon.

Michael

[FreezBee]

I have on my reading list a book called "A Theology of City" - I'll have to look up the author. I believe it looks at "city" as a rebellion against God's command to "fill the earth."

It is one interpretation of the Tower of Babel story (Genesis 11:1-9). People built the city Babylon, because they did not want to obey that command -- which is why God scattered them after destroying the tower.

It looks pretty filled to me!

Though I think there are a few vacant spots in Siberia and Antarctica.


- FreezBee

[Ryokan]

You could fit everyone on the planet inside the state of Alaska (1/3 yard each.)

Plus, population will peak and begin to decline, soon.

Michael

We are on the other hand the most populace large mammal in history of the world, and further more given a traditional, non-urban lifestyle we are billions over the earths carry capacity.

[themuzicman]

In what way are we "over the earth's carry capacity"?


Michael

[Ryokan]

In what way are we "over the earth's carry capacity"?


Michael

Simply, without cities the technological advances necessary for industrial agriculture would not exist. We have six billion people and will top out at 9. There is simply not enough arable land for 6 billion people using pre-modern agricultural techniques. And if you start thinking about agriculture as an unnatural way to live and want to go back to hunter gathering then the total population ought to be about 2 million. So, without cities, the earth is OVER filled.

[FreezBee]

In what way are we "over the earth's carry capacity"?

The earth is sinking!

- FreezBee

[Ryokan]

The earth is sinking!

- FreezBee

well that too. We are too heavy for the turtle carrying us.

[Ryokan]

I wish Muz had responded. His book sounded pretty absurd, but fun to argue about.

[Inquiry]

Maybe more the factors which affects a population political, economical cultural views
are the messages which they receive from socialization tools
Academia, Media ( including movies, shows, artists, news ) Business ( work places has rules like Multiculturalism, etc)
if the majority of the academia from grammar to higher education be public or private
provide the propagate the same kind of information like for example
That all cultures are the same and that moral cultural relativism is ok which occurs even major Catholic campus like Georgetown .There is not right or wrong just differences and people should not rebel against their own cultures and traditions.
That people should accept slavery ( Sudan for example) women being legally second or third class ( Iran, Mauritanian for example) legalized censorship and political repression ( Vietnam, North Korea for example ) because there is not universal moral cultural absolutes and non culture is superior for example moral cultural relativist supporter will argue that
American or Canadian culture better is not others like the Afghan where people are condemned to death for being atheists or abandon the state sponsor religion Islam. If people accept cultural relativism then more people will accept those political parties who sponsor such views such like America political , cultural , economical model is not exceptional or better than the one of North Korea, Sudan or Iran and all models are the same in practice is not truth
Most likely a Cultural relativist will deny that the West experienced real social change happened from abolition of slavery to civil rights
They will deny that non White have experienced by verifiable measure great improvements and advancement in the political , economical , cultural sphere far than in many other world cultures including Third World Cultures, Bhutan , People Republic of China, Rwanda, Nigeria, Mauritania , Brazil, Central America, Mexico etc
They will said that nothing have changed in America or in the West during the last 200 years and they will use utopian standards to measure and downgraded whatever political social reforms had occurs in the West

It is nothing new that the knowledge that for more than 50 years, the academia , most of the media, and the majority of the artists subscribed to
what the late French philosopher Revel rightly so defined as Anti Americanism and that one political philosophy exert practically a monopoly in the educational system and most of the media, and the narrative spoon feed to American students for decades, the one so criticize by the late Allan Bloom in the Closing of the American Mind