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    Quote Originally Posted by Luv1another View Post
    hmm Sparko not sure that the surface pro is suitable for game playing...do you play any games on it?
    Depends on the game. the screen is a bit small (13 inches) but it is as powerful as any other laptop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    Depends on the game. the screen is a bit small (13 inches) but it is as powerful as any other laptop.
    It's as powerful as any laptop without a dedicated GPU, which is pretty much a dealbreaker if you plan on playing games that are even moderately graphically demanding. Especially if you want your laptop to keep up with system requirements for 5 years into the future.
    Last edited by Chrawnus; 06-13-2016 at 01:51 PM. Reason: forgot an 'even'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrawnus View Post
    It's as powerful as any laptop without a dedicated GPU, which is pretty much a dealbreaker if you plan on playing games that are even moderately graphically demanding. Especially if you want your laptop to keep up with system requirements for 5 years into the future.
    I do video rendering and graphics on the tablet and it is pretty durn fast (video rendering uses a lot of the GPU (built in GPU I suppose)) - I am not much of a gamer but if there is a particular game with a free demo, I would be happy to test it out.

    But then most laptops don't have a dedicated GPU, except high end gaming laptops. I don't think luv1another is playing games like Crysis. Probably more like Angry Birds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    I do video rendering and graphics on the tablet and it is pretty durn fast (video rendering uses a lot of the GPU (built in GPU I suppose)) - I am not much of a gamer but if there is a particular game with a free demo, I would be happy to test it out.

    But then most laptops don't have a dedicated GPU, except high end gaming laptops. I don't think luv1another is playing games like Crysis. Probably more like Angry Birds.
    Quote Originally Posted by Luv1another View Post
    I will be using it for normal stuff like email, facebook etc and I play games like Dragon age, sims, mass effect etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrawnus View Post
    sounds like a surface pro would work for her needs.

    They are not cheap though. Just portable and convenient, easy to use in bed, etc. If she is not worried about that, then any laptop would do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    sounds like a surface pro would work for her needs.

    They are not cheap though. Just portable and convenient, easy to use in bed, etc. If she is not worried about that, then any laptop would do.
    Yeah, except she also stated that she wants a laptop that can keep up with system requirements for games that are 5 years into the future. I highly doubt a surface pro 4 is going to be able to do that, even if you go for the most powerful version with an i7 CPU and 16 GB of RAM.

    I checked around, and if you're content with playing with low graphical settings and resolution and still getting fairly low framerates, then I guess the SP4 wouldn't necessarily be out of the picture. But if you have about $1500 Australian to spend and want to experience decently smooth gameplay you're much better off going for a low- to mid-range gaming laptop instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrawnus View Post
    Yeah, except she also stated that she wants a laptop that can keep up with system requirements for games that are 5 years into the future. I highly doubt a surface pro 4 is going to be able to do that, even if you go for the most powerful version with an i7 CPU and 16 GB of RAM.
    That's what I have.

    And it plays games like WoW and Steam games pretty well. I haven't had any games glitch on me yet. Most modern games will adjust themselves to your hardware. I think it will last at least 3 or 4 years into the future. The onboard GPU is pretty durn good. 6th Gen 2.2-GHz Intel Core i7-6650U processor with Intel Iris graphics 540

    She wants something she can use in bed, so I am thinking a blazing hot Alienware Gaming Laptop weighing 15 pounds is not what she is looking for.

    here is a breakdown of the Intel 540 GPU:
    http://www.game-debate.com/hardware/...20540%20Mobile

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    That's what I have.

    And it plays games like WoW and Steam games pretty well. I haven't had any games glitch on me yet. Most modern games will adjust themselves to your hardware. I think it will last at least 3 or 4 years into the future. The onboard GPU is pretty durn good. 6th Gen 2.2-GHz Intel Core i7-6650U processor with Intel Iris graphics 540

    She wants something she can use in bed, so I am thinking a blazing hot Alienware Gaming Laptop weighing 15 pounds is not what she is looking for.
    Yeah, but I wouldn't recommend an Alienware. And the most powerful SP4 (which is in the $2K AUS range) is still going to be outperformed by a gaming laptop for $1500 AUS. And the laptops I linked to, while not being lightweight like the SP4, are still only 6 pounds, which is quite far from 15 pounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrawnus View Post
    Yeah, but I wouldn't recommend an Alienware. And the most powerful SP4 (which is in the $2K AUS range) is still going to be outperformed by a gaming laptop for $1500 AUS. And the laptops I linked to, while not being lightweight like the SP4, are still only 6 pounds, which is quite far from 15 pounds.
    which still get awfully hot on your lap. And if you lay it on your bed, it blocks the fans and melts the motherboard. If you want a gaming computer, you are better off with a desktop, and building a $900 monster that can blow away any laptop.

    But it is up to Luv1another not me or you. I just gave her a suggestion for a nice computer that is better than any tablet, yet functions as a tablet, and can play games. And will not be obsoleted by the next version of Android in a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    which still get awfully hot on your lap. And if you lay it on your bed, it blocks the fans and melts the motherboard. If you want a gaming computer, you are better off with a desktop, and building a $900 monster that can blow away any laptop.
    True on all accounts. Although most of the overheating issues can be fixed with a basic laptop stand, like this one:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Support-Rea.../dp/B007IT6IO8

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    But it is up to Luv1another not me or you. I just gave her a suggestion for a nice computer that is better than any tablet, yet functions as a tablet, and can play games. And will not be obsoleted by the next version of Android in a year.
    If the SP4 is going to be able to play games coming out in the next few years it's probably going to be at low resolutions and framerates that are barely playable.

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