Gidday John,
In this thread:-
http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...l=1#post328746
- it has been suggested that I contact you, although you might not exactly be in a position to respond. If so, I understand.
I am an atheist, and so may well be trespassing here. However, I need some input.
It seems that many folk don't exactly understand my point, perhaps in part because I'm not explaining it well enough.
So if you have anything you may be able to add, and am in a position to do so, please bear with me.
YECs insist that in Gen 1, "yom" really does mean a 24 hour day. Accordingly, I insist that the phrase "God said" or "God made" really do mean, that God physically spoke or that God physically made.
Likewise, I insist that the same phrases in the list of verses I supplied, which deal with the origin of rain, mean exactly the same thing as those phrases do in Genesis.
Many tell me "No. 'God said' simply means that God is in ultimate control, or it means that God created the laws of nature to cause things to happen."
Because I am led to believe that you have some expertise in the original languages of the Bible you may be able to sort this out. In the original Hebrew, for the OT, does the term "God said" have the same kind of literal meaning that "yom" does, and if "yom" means 24 hour day, so "God said" really does mean that God spoke, and it happened. If so, then does "God said" (as well as God made) in that list of verses I supplied in the context of the origin of rain, also have the same meaning? And that the ancient Hebrews were not thinking in terms of natural process, or the laws of nature, but rather they were thinking in terms of God's direct action.
I think creationists are picking and choosing here as to what they take literally, and what they take more liberally, but I could be wrong.
Can you help please?
In this thread:-
http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...l=1#post328746
- it has been suggested that I contact you, although you might not exactly be in a position to respond. If so, I understand.
I am an atheist, and so may well be trespassing here. However, I need some input.
It seems that many folk don't exactly understand my point, perhaps in part because I'm not explaining it well enough.
So if you have anything you may be able to add, and am in a position to do so, please bear with me.
YECs insist that in Gen 1, "yom" really does mean a 24 hour day. Accordingly, I insist that the phrase "God said" or "God made" really do mean, that God physically spoke or that God physically made.
Likewise, I insist that the same phrases in the list of verses I supplied, which deal with the origin of rain, mean exactly the same thing as those phrases do in Genesis.
Many tell me "No. 'God said' simply means that God is in ultimate control, or it means that God created the laws of nature to cause things to happen."
Because I am led to believe that you have some expertise in the original languages of the Bible you may be able to sort this out. In the original Hebrew, for the OT, does the term "God said" have the same kind of literal meaning that "yom" does, and if "yom" means 24 hour day, so "God said" really does mean that God spoke, and it happened. If so, then does "God said" (as well as God made) in that list of verses I supplied in the context of the origin of rain, also have the same meaning? And that the ancient Hebrews were not thinking in terms of natural process, or the laws of nature, but rather they were thinking in terms of God's direct action.
I think creationists are picking and choosing here as to what they take literally, and what they take more liberally, but I could be wrong.
Can you help please?
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