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Gun Control vs. Trust in Police
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"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Spartacus View PostOpposition to stricter gun regulations is generally associated with conservatism. So is support for police.
Support for stricter gun regulations is similarly correlated with the Left, which of late has cultivated a certain distrust of police.
Are these each contradictory positions? They certainly don't correlate the way one might expect at first.
Why are the people who suspect the government of trying to take their guns, or think their own guns are a bulwark against possible tyranny also the people who support the military and police most enthusiastically?
Why are the people who think that police are the only people who should be trusted with guns also the people who seem to distrust the police?
These aren't originally my thoughts; I saw them once before through Facebook, then was recently reminded of them again and figured someone here might be able to give a satisfactory resolution to these seeming contradictions.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by seanD View PostGenerally speaking though it's true. They're questions I've often wondered myself. Especially the Republican side. They seem to abhor big government, but strangely embrace the police state when it has to do with military or police or counter terrorism agencies.Last edited by Cow Poke; 06-25-2016, 09:03 AM.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Sea of red View PostThey are the true big government advocates when you look at the things they advocate.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostMeh.... I think most of us prefer state's rights."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostMeh.... I think most of us prefer state's rights.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostSo why are you even trying to argue about having clip limits when we both know that is just silly? Plus, with millions of 'high capacity' clips out there, how are you going to collect all of them and prevent their illegal circulation?I'm not here anymore.
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Originally posted by Carrikature View PostBecause placing a limit on capacity isn't unconstitutional, nor does it render the weapon useless. Sparko was claiming otherwise.
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Originally posted by Carrikature View PostGiven that they're regularly called both by all involved, this seems a pointless outburst. I've grown up with both clips and magazines as the terminology. They're both valid.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Carrikature View PostGiven that they're regularly called both by all involved, this seems a pointless outburst. I've grown up with both clips and magazines as the terminology. They're both valid.
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostA lot of folks mistakenly refer to long arms like the AR-15 as "assault rifles" and "automatic weapons" but doing so does not make it valid and only leads to confusion.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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